sandeep KharbandaSales manager| Vanderlande IndustriesPune, Maharashtra, India
I have observed recruiter often looking for project manager from same industry irrespective project management skills.
In my view, it doesnt matter the project manage handling IT projects or construction project as long as he is well versed in process of project management.
whats your view? Saving Changes...
sandeep KharbandaSales manager| Vanderlande IndustriesPune, Maharashtra, India
Mar 04, 2016 7:45 AM
Replying to Jitendra Shinde
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Purely mismatch, though both have project management skill set, application area differs. Work processes, entities, deliverables differs. Anyway Project manager not only learn & enhance project management skill but also learn technicality involved in projects, their relationships over the period his experience, It is very difficult for High-rise building construction project manager to lead, deliver complex automation project. Because he need to start understanding development, coding, platform, technology, server, testing, clients expectation in terms of technicality & much more beyond project management expertise.
Hello Jitendra,
Thanks for your reply.
No project is execute by only project manager it's required team efforts. Project manager need to gather all the information from team and must seek advise fro team to prepare the plan.
I must say only research specific project need the experience or relevant background project manager, except that all project can be handle by any qualified project manager with required resources.
Have a nice day
Cheers
Sandeep Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Mar 06, 2016 6:11 AM
Replying to Adrian Carlogea
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Mounir,
As I said my comment is based entirely on my experience and I have reservations on generalizing my own experience.
However I have looked at job openings for IT project managers and for most of them the prior experience working in IT but in a position other than project manager was not appreciated too much.
In many companies you can't get an IT project manager job if you don't have project management experience. The best way to gain project management experience is to start working on an entry level project management position such as project coordinator or junior project manager.
If you have served as a technical lead in several projects but the company you are working in has dedicated employees for managing projects then your chances to actually become a project manager are virtually non-existent. The only chance is to accept a much lower salary to start at an entry level position and then in a couple of years maybe you can get you old salary back.
These dedicated project managers however don't actually lead the teams in the traditional sense (giving instructions or orders) but instead ,as Sergio said, they engage the stakeholders.
Noted Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Mar 06, 2016 11:51 AM
Replying to sandeep Kharbanda
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Hello Ajam,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
I don't think it's easy to become project manager in IT industry either.However, I still believe when it come to project management of large project, it's all about your skills of project Managment to execute the project.
For any technical skills each company have technical lead, if company is expecting project manage to be technical as well then it will directly impact his/ her abilities to perform the project management activities.
In case of small project where budget is always limited , organisation expect PM to lead technical activities as well, in that case the importance of relevant experience is must.
Have a good day
Cheers
Sandeep
Mr. Sandeep
I never said it is easy to be a project manager in IT Saving Changes...
Tariq JavedProgram Manager| Government of PakistanIslamabad, Federal Capital, Pakistan
An experienced project management certified person may be able to handle the job provided he has already successfully managed / completed IT projects Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Mar 06, 2016 3:06 PM
Replying to Tariq Javed
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An experienced project management certified person may be able to handle the job provided he has already successfully managed / completed IT projects
Mr. Javed - certification has nothing to do with it. There are many certified individuals who passed an exam without significant experience or proof of their competence. This is another subject and there are many online discussions on this point.
The key is qualified and experienced manager - certified or not. Saving Changes...
A strong PM should be able to transition from industry to industry, or technology to technology, and lead effectively, as long as they have complementary skill sets within the project team, that contribute as SMEs and/or technical leads. I've had the privilege of working on software, product development, office fitouts and IT projects/programmes, and have enjoyed the variety.
While it is true that project managers could change industry it is also true that project managers who are not also subject matter experts will face a set of limitations while they are doing their work.
For instance the most important decisions that directly affect the team members are technical in nature. Team member don't care too much about project management related issues such as managing scope, stakeholders, budget and risk but all they care about is the technical approach to use in order to build the products or the services that have to be delivered.
A project manager who is not also a subject matter expert will virtually be excluded from the decision process used by the team members to build the products. The project manager can only check that the team members do understand what needs to be delivered and that they have an idea on what needs to be done. The project manager however does not have the capacity to tell whether or not the actions that the team members are about to perform will actually bring the project to success.
Non technical project managers are basically forced to blindly trust their team members on all technical issues and they have very little control in this matter. If the team members end up being slowed down or stopped by purely technical difficulties then the project manager will not be able to do much to help.
Non technical project managers also can't use a more directive leadership style when one is needed as they lack the capacity to formulate the instructions or orders to be given to the team members. Saving Changes...
m grayIndependent Professional PM| ND_I LimitedCalgary, Alberta, Canada
So what would think about a PM who has very wide industry and manufacturing experience but little IT experience and the project is to implement a new manufacturing system?
What about the other way around - fab IT skills, but knows little about industry & manufacturing?
No right answer, but my guess then is it depends on what the hiring manager doesn't know much about Saving Changes...
Vincent McGeownProject Manager| noneGold Coast, Qld, Australia
Totally different skill set between the them.
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1 reply by Mayte Mata Sivera
Jan 04, 2017 5:00 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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Vincent, could you give us some examples of different skills?
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Abish VazhayilSr. Manager Digital Transformation| Leidos IncMorton Grove, Il, United States
Subject knowledge is a must. I tried to transition into PM oil/gas but found the terminology, WBS etc was a challenge. This could be the same if transitioning to IT based projects. My recommendation is to transition for an opportunity with the existing employer when you get a chance to minimize career risk. Saving Changes...
It seems that Construction vs IT is a common discussion topic. Who led the project with more budget? Who had the hardest stakeholders?Do we need to be an SME or BA or specific skills... sincerely I have a lot of fun with these discussions.
My point of view by points.
- No necessary skills or SME or Business Expert for manage it.
- Terminology or other specific topics can be learned, depending or your abilities and if you want to go from experienced project manager to a junior in another field.
- When you are looking for a job, and you'll apply to a position, usually the role description used to be clear, then nobody (Recruiter or job hunter) should waste time.
- Recruiters sometimes don't understand the role of a project manager, or the client job needs description Saving Changes...
