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Any thoughts on project management in organizations which are not willing to apply / adopt project management techniques

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Tariq Javed Program Manager| Government of Pakistan Islamabad, Federal Capital, Pakistan
Most of the public sector organizations in developing countries are averse to application of project management techniques and are also devoid of clear understanding of project management as a subject having 5 process groups and 10 knowledge areas thus the top management in such organizations do not prefer project management qualified managers or PMI certified project managers so how to convince such top management to adopt / apply project management in their organization.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Each person in this world is applying project management right now, no matter she/he is aware of it. Take the principles of PMI about project management. Think about it and you will find that those principles are following for each person in the world. It could be aplied in explicit of implicit way. So, what we have to do is making this visible to people. That´s all.
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Michelle Daigle PgMP®,PMP®, PfMP® Practitioner| Genetec Verdun, Quebec, Canada
If you're trying to 'sell' the idea of project management at your organization, I'd recommend reflecting on the problems and challenges that the organization faces without project management, then pull together a case for how project management can solve those specific problems. There are probably case studies on line that help with this very thing!

It's not that long ago that most industries in most countries were in the same situation. I find that over the past 10-15 years, project management has really become recognised for the value it brings. The public sector in your country may be lagging a bit but it's just a matter of having them understand the benefits of what the profession brings.

If you get their attention, but they're not convinced, try to just do it for one project on a trial basis, with a contractor. The organisation is then not making a long term commitment to a new employee, but can see the results for themselves.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
I'm with Sergio on this one. Don't worry about the organization supporting PM or not. You apply what you know works for you and your circumstances.

As an example, sometimes I do work as a business analyst. Does it mean I can't use PM techniques or tools if I think it will help? Of course not.
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Hau Doan Huu Asst CEO in IT and DX, cum DCIO| Vietnam Post Hanoi, Hanoi, Viet Nam
All nice responds to your concern.
As my experiences, the first thing you should do is to make them, not only the top management but also the team members, be aware of the value of Project Management in the detail way as Michelle said.
You can also apply what you have learned from PMP in your circumstances, but getting the supporting from your top management and your organization is one of the most critical factors to conduct your project successfully
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Khai Ng. IT PMO | IT Project Manager| TTGROUP Hanoi, Viet Nam
I don't think they are "averse to application of project management techniques" and "avoid of clear understanding of project management". Ultimately, they follow or have their own mindset of PMP knowledge areas. What they lack is the same terms we, as PMs, use in our professional. We, as PMs, must adapt processes to particular project and specific environment. We also have to teach them to use the same terminologies and language that we talk in our daily PM life.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
First Stéphane and Sergio are right formal or informal it is applied everywhere. You might what to discover why they don't want to make it formal.
I had a case where it was more a misunderstanding of the benefits, initially they believed it would point to bad management. Until they realize it would help point where to make adjustment.
A commun language, apply it in one project like Michelle suggested, they should see the first benefit.
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Julian Vivas Protfolio = Project Manager Bogota, Cundinamarca, Colombia
The organizations grow up with projects, in some cases this represent an important % of the total budget of the company and if the company don't implement the right process to plan & execute this projects they put in risk a lot of money.

The investors always want talk about incomes & revenue and you could aport in two ways generating incomes or reducing the cost. If you see the some studies and survey its easy to demonstrate how the companies with strong cultures of PM have better projects, reducing the cost of new projects.
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Bruce A Hayes Project Manager, Scrum Master, Product Owner, and freelance Trainer.| Available to partner with you. Let's review your needs to see if we are a match. Fort Wayne, IN, United States
I'd work on applying the steps and each step say why it's beneficial. Don't say this is the right way to do it. Just say this will benefit the team in this way and this will help us in that. Every chance you get, remind them why they are creating a deliverable. Even if they don't ask -- say it! A few projects into it an you'll have them watching out for scope creep without you saying a word.
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Stanislav Pankov New Delhi, India
There is old Russian proverb: If something happens (or not) - there is someone interested in that (behind that). Management of "Most of the public sector organizations in developing countries" could get good benefits from unclear scope of work, lack of control, absence of "project management qualified managers or PMI certified project managers". And it can be the reason for "not willing to apply / adopt project management techniques".

The question was "so how to convince such top management to adopt / apply project management in their organization". I can see two ways only - either by law (in cases of government bodies) or by economic means (in cases of private companies owners will come to correct decision themselves in order to survive and compete).
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Avichal Sinha Project Manager| Tricon Infotech Pvt Ltd Bangalore, Karnataka, India
The best approach i feel is to go by examples and metrics. The value realization will enable them to understand the importance of practicing project management and the worth of having a PMI certified project manager.

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