George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 28, 2016 8:30 AM
Replying to Derek Huether
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George, the kicker here is it sounds like you're in the pursuit of knowledge. Read up on XP, Lean, Kanban and in addition to Scrum, you've pretty much covered the content of the ACP. The PMI-ACP is merely going to certify that you fundamentally understand that content. You should be a practitioner first. CSM doesn't require any experience for certification but PMI-ACP does.
I was a content reviewer on the PMI-ACP certification, when it was being created. Though I was passionate out it at the time, the 3 certifications that are getting people interviews are CSM, PMP, and Certifieed SAFe Practitioner. Though the certifications will help you get to the next interview, your experiences are what will make you marketable.
Thanks Derek, I have used XP before like for 6 months and I'm a CSM certified, but I by NO means consider my self an expert in the matter...
Side note! No need to mention PMP is a must for us that has made it a living for years :) Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Derek - This type of comments is exacly what I'm looking for... I'll take a note of the following:
"You should be a practitioner first. CSM doesn't require any experience for certification but PMI-ACP does. "
If you have more of these especific comparison I'll be glad.
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
I would suggest, George that you post your new question separately. It will attract Agile-knowledgeable people (e.g. Sergio) that may not come to this post.
Stephane, is the trail cleared now? or you still consider I should post a new separate question?
I think you will be good, George, leaving it here. Now that we know by the title AND the question that your focus in Agile in all its forms, you should be attracting the right kind of people.
Stephane, is the trail cleared now? or you still consider I should post a new separate question?
I think you will be good, George, leaving it here. Now that we know by the title AND the question that your focus in Agile in all its forms, you should be attracting the right kind of people.
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Mar 29, 2016 12:01 AM
George Lewis
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thanks
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
I think you will be good, George, leaving it here. Now that we know by the title AND the question that your focus in Agile in all its forms, you should be attracting the right kind of people.
thanks Saving Changes...
Jennifer BrowerIT Project Manager ConsultantOrland Park, Il, United States
I'm also a CSM and have considered taking the PMI-ACP. Has anyone actually taken the test and what was your experience? Is it a lot like the PMP in the way they ask questions?
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2 replies by Derek Huether and George Lewis
Mar 30, 2016 4:19 PM
Derek Huether
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Jennifer, I was involved with the PMI-ACP in the early days. I was a content reviewer and took/passed the exam while it was in the pilot phase. If you are a practitioner with several years of experience, you could pass this exam cold. It was nothing like the PMP. The PMP was probably the most painful exam I've taken in my life. The PMI-ACP was probably the most fun, in that I knew every answer within a few seconds. It was very well written.
Mar 31, 2016 12:45 AM
George Lewis
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Jenniger - I'm a CSM and just like you I'm trying to find out more to see if I should or not take the PMI-ACP.
I Saw Derek answer as well...
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Derek HuetherPrincipal Solutions Engineer| AtlassianNew Market, Md, United States
Mar 30, 2016 3:56 PM
Replying to Jennifer Brower
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I'm also a CSM and have considered taking the PMI-ACP. Has anyone actually taken the test and what was your experience? Is it a lot like the PMP in the way they ask questions?
Jennifer, I was involved with the PMI-ACP in the early days. I was a content reviewer and took/passed the exam while it was in the pilot phase. If you are a practitioner with several years of experience, you could pass this exam cold. It was nothing like the PMP. The PMP was probably the most painful exam I've taken in my life. The PMI-ACP was probably the most fun, in that I knew every answer within a few seconds. It was very well written. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 30, 2016 3:56 PM
Replying to Jennifer Brower
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I'm also a CSM and have considered taking the PMI-ACP. Has anyone actually taken the test and what was your experience? Is it a lot like the PMP in the way they ask questions?
Jenniger - I'm a CSM and just like you I'm trying to find out more to see if I should or not take the PMI-ACP.
I Saw Derek answer as well... Saving Changes...
Syed Nazir RazikEngineering Leader - Product and Platforms, Agile CoE| AltimetrikChennai,, T.N., India
PMI-ACP has a larger coverage into Agile than CSM. CSM is more specific to Scrum adoption only. ACP gives you a wider perspective on the Lean concepts adopted in Agile Practice. It help to understand the ways and means to transform from being a Project Manager to a Scrum Master (Servant Leader). I was a CSM as early as 2008 and practicing Scrum in my team and ACP since 2014
Most of employers are aware that CSM is a certification that is got at end of 2 day training by default.
From a exam preparation angle, ACP is not as tough as PMP but requires significant effort (60 % - 70% of PMP effort ) is required
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1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 04, 2016 4:23 AM
George Lewis
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Great response, appreciated... Clear and concise...
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Apr 04, 2016 2:24 AM
Replying to Syed Nazir Razik
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PMI-ACP has a larger coverage into Agile than CSM. CSM is more specific to Scrum adoption only. ACP gives you a wider perspective on the Lean concepts adopted in Agile Practice. It help to understand the ways and means to transform from being a Project Manager to a Scrum Master (Servant Leader). I was a CSM as early as 2008 and practicing Scrum in my team and ACP since 2014
Most of employers are aware that CSM is a certification that is got at end of 2 day training by default.
From a exam preparation angle, ACP is not as tough as PMP but requires significant effort (60 % - 70% of PMP effort ) is required
Great response, appreciated... Clear and concise... Saving Changes...
