Can we Start with Process Groups Instead of Knowledge Areas
Ahmed SanadProject Director| Siemens EnergyDubai, United Arab Emirates
Hello All,
Hope everyone is fine.
I'm looking for your support and help as usual.
I'm working on a PMP Training conducted by me.
One of the attendees asked me if we can conduct the course on a "Process Group" basis, not a "Knowledge area basis", he means that we can start the course by "Initiation" , then we can work on "Develop Charter" & "Identify Stakeholders".then we go with Planning, and so on.......
will it help or it'll confuse them more ?
Need you opinions.
Many Thanks In advance.
Best Regards,
Ahmed Sanad Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
The question is: do you have a process defined to perform project management inside the organization you will perform the training? If you have one then follow the process. If you have no process defined then follow the process each person in this world follow each day of the life to do something. Use day to day situations, for example to cook a pie. You need to follow what is close to everyone. And everyone perform project management in the daily life. Think about it. Saving Changes...
If it's for an organisation, use their projects methods and add the PMBOK part that are missing in their, show the parallel in both method and for the terms use. Saving Changes...
Frank SaladisEducator/Trainer| Blue Marble Enterprizes Inc.Staten Island, Ny, United States
For several years I have suggested a few changes to the PMBOK - Integration management should be the last chapter in the PMBOK Guide (if knowledge areas are going to be provided as separate chapters). The process groups basically describe how a project is managed. Project managers don't manage projects using a succession of knowledge areas, they manage projects using an integrated planning approach. I developed a two slide view (power point) of the PMBOK Guide which clearly displays how the knowledge areas and process group actually inter-act. It is based on page 61 of the PMBOK Guide 5th edition. send me a note if you'd like to see it. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
The PMBOK do not prescribe about a project life cycle. So, you must not think about you will have some kind of relation between knwoledge areas defined inside the PMBOK. The numbers assigned to the knowledge areas and the process are intended to make the PMBOK more understandable not because a precedence is defined (this is what PMI has said for years). So, it is up to you. And it is good that it will be keep. For example, we have five project life cycles defined fully based on the PMBOK and to select one depends on multiple factors and criterias fully focused on organizational strategy. Saving Changes...
Frank SaladisEducator/Trainer| Blue Marble Enterprizes Inc.Staten Island, Ny, United States
Ahmed, Consider how a project is managed. Project managers do not focus first on scope, then on schedule, then on cost etc. Planning is done concurrently where the PM and team consider risk quality cost, time etc. as factors in planning. PMI designed the PMBOK guide with the knowledge areas by chapter for learning purposes and to accentuate the key elements of each knowledge area. The Process Groups actually integrate the knowledge areas. This is clearly shown on page 61 of the PMBOK Guide.
The next edition of the PMBOK, at least from what I have heard, is going to focus on the process groups and how the knowledge areas fit into each process group. If you would like additional information, send a note to [email protected] Saving Changes...
