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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Certify and then get a Job to earn experiience or acquire expirience and then obrain a certification?

After I saw someone post an answer to another question, I decided to post this tricky question...
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Experience is always a must. Certification is only a way of demonstrating your experience.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 05, 2016 5:42 AM
George Lewis
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Hi Stephane - No one doubts that, but the question is what comes first...

So your position is for someone to acquire experience prior to get certified.

Thanks for your input...
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Drake Morse Manager, Programme Leadership| Deloitte Consulting B.V. Nova Scotia, Canada
When it comes to the hiring of PMs I would say that its a totum of the following...
Experience
Certification
Intellect and Relationship

Personally I have advised on many projects however having full end to end experience is minimal. Hard to find work as a direct PM because of my consulting role but the certifications and relationships help get me those consulting helicopter roles. Wish there was some sort of 1:1 experience chart but its hard.
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2 replies by George Lewis
Apr 05, 2016 5:55 AM
George Lewis
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Hi Drake -

You perfectly understand the dilema: it's easy to say get full experience and then get certified, but you won't get a job without having that experience.

I like your realistic approach, of handling a full end to end project, giving you the knowledge (not necessary full experience) and then earn the certification, that allong with good relationships with help you get those roles that will give you the full experience.

Thanks for your feedback, but you still needs to give me your take, what goes first for you?
Apr 28, 2016 5:28 AM
George Lewis
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Experience will always be a plus over certification. Certification will confirm an organize experience PM.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 05, 2016 5:47 AM
George Lewis
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Hi Vincent - So your position is to earn experience first, then get certified...

Thanks for your input...
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Govind Kulkarni Engineering project Manager| Syngenta India Limited Pune, Maharashtra, India
Experience and then certification is the sequence for at least PMP. I am not sure whether PMP certification can be done without experience .
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Apr 05, 2016 5:50 AM
George Lewis
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Govind - Thanks for your input...

So you go for get the experience and then get certified. Thanks for your input.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 03, 2016 2:01 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Experience is always a must. Certification is only a way of demonstrating your experience.
Hi Stephane - No one doubts that, but the question is what comes first...

So your position is for someone to acquire experience prior to get certified.

Thanks for your input...
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 04, 2016 11:00 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Experience will always be a plus over certification. Certification will confirm an organize experience PM.
Hi Vincent - So your position is to earn experience first, then get certified...

Thanks for your input...
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 05, 2016 2:36 AM
Replying to Govind Kulkarni
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Experience and then certification is the sequence for at least PMP. I am not sure whether PMP certification can be done without experience .
Govind - Thanks for your input...

So you go for get the experience and then get certified. Thanks for your input.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 04, 2016 8:30 PM
Replying to Drake Morse
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When it comes to the hiring of PMs I would say that its a totum of the following...
Experience
Certification
Intellect and Relationship

Personally I have advised on many projects however having full end to end experience is minimal. Hard to find work as a direct PM because of my consulting role but the certifications and relationships help get me those consulting helicopter roles. Wish there was some sort of 1:1 experience chart but its hard.
Hi Drake -

You perfectly understand the dilema: it's easy to say get full experience and then get certified, but you won't get a job without having that experience.

I like your realistic approach, of handling a full end to end project, giving you the knowledge (not necessary full experience) and then earn the certification, that allong with good relationships with help you get those roles that will give you the full experience.

Thanks for your feedback, but you still needs to give me your take, what goes first for you?
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1 reply by Drake Morse
Apr 05, 2016 6:56 AM
Drake Morse
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Experience is first
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Drake Morse Manager, Programme Leadership| Deloitte Consulting B.V. Nova Scotia, Canada
Apr 05, 2016 5:55 AM
Replying to George Lewis
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Hi Drake -

You perfectly understand the dilema: it's easy to say get full experience and then get certified, but you won't get a job without having that experience.

I like your realistic approach, of handling a full end to end project, giving you the knowledge (not necessary full experience) and then earn the certification, that allong with good relationships with help you get those roles that will give you the full experience.

Thanks for your feedback, but you still needs to give me your take, what goes first for you?
Experience is first
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1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 05, 2016 8:55 AM
George Lewis
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Got your answer, tks!
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
Apr 05, 2016 6:56 AM
Replying to Drake Morse
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Experience is first
Got your answer, tks!
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