Drake SettsuProject Manager / BloggerHi, United States
Real life experience while educating yourself in project management is very important.
A certification means you passed a test. Nice accomplishment.
Experience means you done it.
In today's world it comes down to good judgement on how to approach each project. A certification does not mean guaranteed success. It means that you have another tool in your toolbox.
Companies want results. They are not going to tell you how to delivery it. Your job is to deliver the expected outcomes that you have been assigned too. Saving Changes...
Tim PodestaDirector of PM/PMO| Former BP- now IndependentPenn, Bucks, United Kingdom
Certification makes more sense when you are doing an assignment or job you can apply the learning on. One drawback is where certification content is different to an organisations process or language. This can also be an added learning opportunity to understand the differences. Saving Changes...
Jun YinPerkinElmer Instruments (Shanghai) Company LimitedChina, Mainland
cert is for resume, exp for resume, interview and job. when you dont have exp, get yourself a cert. If you have plenty of exp then get yourself a cert when you have spare time.
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1 reply by Darrell Kelso
Sep 27, 2018 1:59 AM
Darrell Kelso
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In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route?
I think get Certified and then get a Job to earn experience is the ideal thing and probably the better option as am wondering if there's a measuring instrument to determine when and/of if you have 'enough' and RIGHT experience assuming you want to go the other route of Experience before Certification.
Also, thinking about the basic educational system, e.g. University education, you are TAUGHT and CERTIFIED first and after graduation you seek work where you gain Experience to add to your classroom teachings.
Though, for many technical courses you gain Experience, in form Industrial Attachment for some 3-6months as part of your educational program Before you earn a Certificate at the end of your course.
From my experiences, it is beneficial to have both experience + certifications. Certifications are great to have and may get you in the door, but if you do not (or cannot) apply the skills effectively then there is no point. Certifications in my opinion are what those looking to break into a new industry should obtain; but not necessary for those who are already established experts in their field. Let me give an example: In the Navy, I was a submarine radio electronics technician. I had 0 certifications, I had been to 0 extra training schools to strengthen my skills, all I had I had learned on the job. While there were many in my division that had been to these advanced technical schools and had certifications in various specialties, I was considered the go-to expert based on my experience alone. Now on the flip side- I am trying to break into the PM field where I have very little experience. Certifications such as finishing my Bachelors and earning the PMP are very important to me because I have such little experience. Earning those will highlight that I am at least educated in the subject and have the knowledge; however experience is the key to proving you can apply those skills and knowledge. Which is why I volunteer with PMI and my local chapter at the same time, to gain experience. Volunteering is perhaps the best way to break into a new industry. You can network, build upon your knowledge and most importantly, prove to those already established in the industry your work ethic, determination and perseverance.
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1 reply by Darrell Kelso
Sep 27, 2018 2:05 AM
Darrell Kelso
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In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route?
cert is for resume, exp for resume, interview and job. when you dont have exp, get yourself a cert. If you have plenty of exp then get yourself a cert when you have spare time.
In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route? Saving Changes...
From my experiences, it is beneficial to have both experience + certifications. Certifications are great to have and may get you in the door, but if you do not (or cannot) apply the skills effectively then there is no point. Certifications in my opinion are what those looking to break into a new industry should obtain; but not necessary for those who are already established experts in their field. Let me give an example: In the Navy, I was a submarine radio electronics technician. I had 0 certifications, I had been to 0 extra training schools to strengthen my skills, all I had I had learned on the job. While there were many in my division that had been to these advanced technical schools and had certifications in various specialties, I was considered the go-to expert based on my experience alone. Now on the flip side- I am trying to break into the PM field where I have very little experience. Certifications such as finishing my Bachelors and earning the PMP are very important to me because I have such little experience. Earning those will highlight that I am at least educated in the subject and have the knowledge; however experience is the key to proving you can apply those skills and knowledge. Which is why I volunteer with PMI and my local chapter at the same time, to gain experience. Volunteering is perhaps the best way to break into a new industry. You can network, build upon your knowledge and most importantly, prove to those already established in the industry your work ethic, determination and perseverance.
In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route? Saving Changes...
I'm old as dirt and when I was a young man there were no such thing as certifications and can you believe it, buildings still got built and bridges and roads were built too. I seem to remember the pyramids got built and I don't believe there were any PMPs back then. Now we're in the 21st century and no one can do anything without a certification, so my recommendation is study and pass the test so you can get certified.
In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route? Saving Changes...
In my case I have 20+ years of experience but have no degree.
I've managed major builds in the Telecom/Wireless industry but was hands on field experience (except for purchasing management / logistics) SOW, Scope, Budget, QA, Safety, Contractor Management, Close Out assuring all aspects were maintained per the customer/employer requirements.
Now I'm to the point of needing a PMP certification, what is my best route? Saving Changes...
Pench BattaEnterprise Lean Agile DevOps Coach /SAFe Program Consultant (SPC6)| Capgemini, Inc.Bentonville, Ar, United States
Certificates will always helpful. To get the certification we need to do a lot of preparation. We will get in-depth knowledge and this will be helpful to execute the projects. Saving Changes...
