George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Apr 12, 2016 10:51 AM
Replying to Sean Matthews
...
I got my CAPM while doing something that wasn't project management related, but my boss allowed me to do some of the departmental PM tasks, which eventually led me to a job utilizing my certification and knowledge. I guess it all depends on where you are in life and what it is that you want and what the employer is looking for.
Totally agree Sean, these are the type of realist approaches I appreaciate.
Good comment. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
The person who best answers the interview questions. Remember, the certification only gets you to the interview. Saving Changes...
Shari MulhollenT1 iOS Advisor| Apple Inc.Willow Spring, Nc, United States
Theory is only theory... In my opinion the best way to learn the concept is to first gain some experience, then pursue specialized certificates. Saving Changes...
It's ideally best to gain knowledge (the training required in preparation for certification) first. It makes the experience curve smoother as you become more familiar through practice with the terminology, processes and procedures you learnt about.
...
2 replies by George Lewis
Apr 13, 2016 6:49 AM
George Lewis
...
One of the best answers I've received so far, you worded it properly.
I don't want to expand and cause confusion on your idea, can you comment a little more around your answer.
It would be very valuable to have this input shown in that Poll
Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Apr 13, 2016 12:19 AM
Replying to Israel Ufomadu
...
It's ideally best to gain knowledge (the training required in preparation for certification) first. It makes the experience curve smoother as you become more familiar through practice with the terminology, processes and procedures you learnt about.
One of the best answers I've received so far, you worded it properly.
I don't want to expand and cause confusion on your idea, can you comment a little more around your answer.
Greatful for your insight. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Apr 13, 2016 12:19 AM
Replying to Israel Ufomadu
...
It's ideally best to gain knowledge (the training required in preparation for certification) first. It makes the experience curve smoother as you become more familiar through practice with the terminology, processes and procedures you learnt about.
It would be very valuable to have this input shown in that Poll Saving Changes...
Charuhasa venkataramanLeader - Application Engineering| MediKarmaSan Jose, Ca, United States
These days no professional course is valuable and sometimes even valid without the requisite experience - even when in college, computer science is hands on.
The question really is "how much of experience" as opposed to "do you need experience", nil experience being moot point!
It depends on the certification in question, so, in my opinion - irrespective of any certification, there would be minimum required experience to convince the professional to pursue that path.
Given that as the baseline - yes, you need experience. Whether you know that you have experience and are confident that you can pursue that career is a different story.
I think thats an individual question each professional will need to answer, because - with the requisite experience and a certification, you may still lack the confidence to pursue that role, and that can put you on the wrong side - aka "no experience".
Tricky, but possible to figure out once you know where your interests lie.
...
1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 13, 2016 4:55 PM
George Lewis
...
Chary - Great insight, I like your this phrase:
The question really is "how much of experience" as opposed to "do you need experience", nil experience being moot point!
These comments are certainly much more realistic than the initial comments.
I think we all agree that experience is required, the level of experience is what was not clear before. I would even change the word experience for "Practical Contact" to be able to sit for the certification test, then with the theory basics you can perform with the proper baselines and as the time goes by your experience increases.
Definition of Experience: Practical contact with and observation of facts or events.
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Charu brings a good point. At the opposite end, there's also the position you are trying to staff. I once picked up a business analyst to help me in project management activities. The person had no PM experience, let alone certification. Because they were part of my PM team, I was willing to accept someone with no experience. In such jobs, soft skills can be more important that PM experience.
...
1 reply by George Lewis
Apr 13, 2016 5:05 PM
George Lewis
...
Stephane, why didn't you share this with us before! I ...
Hope you don't mine me to using this example with my students...
Please keep them comming.
Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Apr 13, 2016 4:33 PM
Replying to Charuhasa venkataraman
...
These days no professional course is valuable and sometimes even valid without the requisite experience - even when in college, computer science is hands on.
The question really is "how much of experience" as opposed to "do you need experience", nil experience being moot point!
It depends on the certification in question, so, in my opinion - irrespective of any certification, there would be minimum required experience to convince the professional to pursue that path.
Given that as the baseline - yes, you need experience. Whether you know that you have experience and are confident that you can pursue that career is a different story.
I think thats an individual question each professional will need to answer, because - with the requisite experience and a certification, you may still lack the confidence to pursue that role, and that can put you on the wrong side - aka "no experience".
Tricky, but possible to figure out once you know where your interests lie.
Chary - Great insight, I like your this phrase:
The question really is "how much of experience" as opposed to "do you need experience", nil experience being moot point!
These comments are certainly much more realistic than the initial comments.
I think we all agree that experience is required, the level of experience is what was not clear before. I would even change the word experience for "Practical Contact" to be able to sit for the certification test, then with the theory basics you can perform with the proper baselines and as the time goes by your experience increases.
Definition of Experience: Practical contact with and observation of facts or events.
