Thusi HettigamaDirector of Business Operations| Lunavi Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Have you seen shadow mini PMO groups in your organizations. Basically hiring PMs for their own departments without consulting the PMO organization or requesting PMs from PMO.
I have noticed most of the large organizations (Example Banks) hire PMs without consulting their PMO office. After a while these PMs build their own shadow mini PMO bodies....also it organically grows and produce their own processes and templates to run projects.
Not sure why senior leaders don't see this as a issue. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Lot of times. And is more usual thank you think. I can write a lot about that. But the cure is simple: if you are part of the PMO you must ask this question: why the department will ask to hire a PM to me? That´s all. It is a matter to perceived value.
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1 reply by Thusi Hettigama
Apr 16, 2016 1:36 PM
Thusi Hettigama
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Sergio, you are right from one perspective they may not seeing a value. But I think finding a answer is more complex than that. How about PMO brings a value but other departments do not want to be controlled. They do not want to follow a standard process.
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
CxOs need to be championing PMOs and holding managers accountable for going rogue.
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1 reply by Thusi Hettigama
Apr 16, 2016 1:38 PM
Thusi Hettigama
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I agree with you Stephane
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Markus KopkoAI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM
AI Coach| PMotion.aiHamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hi,
i have seen this many times, not only in my own organizations i where employed, but also and often in our customers organizations (which are often bank or financial institutes btw).
I would say it is often because of missing or bad designed processes and lagging controlling of these processes (if they exist).
And like Sergio said, another big point may be that they often just don't know or recognice which value the centralized PMO can offer or may be there is no such value ...
So it could be also a matter of missing or bad communication what might be the answer to your question about the senior leaders.
Another point regarding this is, that senior or department leaders just want the things (projects in this case) be done. They mostly do not care about which processes are used or which templates. They just look forward to results.
Like Sergio said - again - we could wright a book about this, but i guess we have they key points hit.
It is not that Senior managers are not aware what is going on. It is as aptly put by Mr.Markus, senior management want just results , not bothering about the means but the end and if the end result is more revenue, it is all the better for senior management.
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2 replies by Stéphane Parent and Thusi Hettigama
Apr 16, 2016 8:10 AM
Stéphane Parent
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I would say, Krishna, your senior management is NOT championing the PMO. If your PMO is not making it easier and better to deliver results, then either the PMO should adapt or it will fall by the wayside.
Apr 16, 2016 10:17 PM
Thusi Hettigama
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Hello Krishna, This is a concern for the bottom line. Why not using the PMO based full time employed PMs rather than hiring new. By having shadow PMO will increase the operational expenses for the company.
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saurabh mahajanPMP, ITIL, PRINCE2| vodafonePune, Maharashtra, India
i have seen companies looking internally first before hiring mangers from outside. So basically the request to hire manager goes to account manager, then to HR. HR contacts internal PMO to check if they can provide the required manager profile. If NOT then it goes to external hiring HR to hire from outside. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Apr 16, 2016 3:21 AM
Replying to Krishna Bhimarao Khasanis
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It is not that Senior managers are not aware what is going on. It is as aptly put by Mr.Markus, senior management want just results , not bothering about the means but the end and if the end result is more revenue, it is all the better for senior management.
I would say, Krishna, your senior management is NOT championing the PMO. If your PMO is not making it easier and better to deliver results, then either the PMO should adapt or it will fall by the wayside. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
1. Maybe they do not know there is a PMO in the organization :)
2. Or they know about the PMO but do not think it is there to support them
3. Or, they do not see the value from the organizational PMO
4. OR we can speculate forever
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1 reply by Thusi Hettigama
Apr 16, 2016 10:21 PM
Thusi Hettigama
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#1 : They very well know. Basically these departments do not want to follow the process or lose the control
#2 : This could be one reason. I agree
#3 : Yes this is a possibility . I agree
When something doesn't go well, it may be possible to have such scenario but if all is well no need for Shadow PMO. Moment any project becomes the Red, the focus comes on that and many appointed to oversee it by passing PMO. Saving Changes...
Thusi HettigamaDirector of Business Operations| Lunavi Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Apr 15, 2016 4:28 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Lot of times. And is more usual thank you think. I can write a lot about that. But the cure is simple: if you are part of the PMO you must ask this question: why the department will ask to hire a PM to me? That´s all. It is a matter to perceived value.
Sergio, you are right from one perspective they may not seeing a value. But I think finding a answer is more complex than that. How about PMO brings a value but other departments do not want to be controlled. They do not want to follow a standard process. Saving Changes...
Thusi HettigamaDirector of Business Operations| Lunavi Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Apr 15, 2016 8:31 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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CxOs need to be championing PMOs and holding managers accountable for going rogue.
