I know this is a PMI owned website but I also know it is supposed to be open to other platforms.
What trigger this post is a message from another user that "There is no reputable certification ... outside of PMI"
Therefore, the intent is not to market for these organization, especially that I am not associated with most of them. I pose this question to see how many people are aware of other professional associations in the project management world.
The question is - how many people here know about:
1. GPM Global and what they do? 2. asapm and what they do? 3. IPMA and their work and certification? 4. How about AACE International? 5. SAVE International 6. GAPPS? 7. APM?
Please share what you know - there is no shame in not knowing. We are exposed to certain things and not exposed to others. Saving Changes...
STEVE BOEDECKERUnemployed Project Manager| FutureVision ProductionsVernon, Nj, United States
Is there an organization like PMI.org, for BAs ?
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Apr 25, 2016 11:11 AM
Stéphane Parent
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That would be the IIBA,Steve. It offers the CBAP accreditation.
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Apr 25, 2016 11:06 AM
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Is there an organization like PMI.org, for BAs ?
That would be the IIBA,Steve. It offers the CBAP accreditation. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Mounir, what PMI fought in the UK was to have APM recognized with a Royal Charter. Obviously, PMI does not have a Royal Charter and felt that it was discriminatory. Here's more on the dispute.
http://www.girlsguidetopm.com/2014/07/apm-...-are-dismissed/ Saving Changes...
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Stephane
I know the whole story but PMI for many years have been trying to claim that PMI is a profession - but when APM applied for this in the UK - PMI tried to stop, lost, they appealed and lost.
I believe it is purely commercial and has nothing to do with discriminatory. Since PMI believe PM is a profession - why do not they try to get the USA to recognize it as such? PMI is powerful enough and have a government office in DC they can lobby for this instead of spending money to stop APM.
Also why would it be discriminatory? If PMI believe in its products then they can still compete in the UK. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I have to go by what has been reported, Mounir. If you wish to believe there is a different agenda, that's your prerogative.
The linked article already presents PMI view of unfair advantage Saving Changes...
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I understand Stephane - but why would it be an unfair advantage? When PMI being the biggest and richest organization in the world for PM - some could claim monopolization. The globe should be a "free market"
Also - why did PMI seek to stop the Project Control Guild from using the term body of knowledge - is this a trade mark to PMI?
How about paraphrasing the PMBOK Guide?
I personally stopped contributing to PMI because of these and many other practices - where it is operating as a business. However, maybe we should stop since this is the not the point of the this discussion. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I do not work for PMI and, therefore, cannot represent their view, Mounir.
I could share my opinion like you did but where would it get us? Speculations, hypotheses and conspiracies? Saving Changes...
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Hi Stephane - I know you do not speak for PMI and I was asking for an opinion - why would it be discriminatory in your opinion? Such ruling does not eliminate the need for PRINCE2 or PMI since some organizations have chosen one approach or another. Saving Changes...
Precision Prince is now owned part by UK Government and AXELOS has the majority I understand.
Now AXELOS is really pushing outside of UK, good translation in many language, office or partnership in many places.
I encourage other to add to the list for not local association Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
The way I see it, Mounir, is that APM is getting a royal charter which PMI is not getting. Therefore, the United Kingdom is giving APM more legitimacy than PMI, at least within its borders. That would mean APMP would be favoured over PMP.
You talk about free market and globe. Giving APM the Royal Charter is preferential treatment of a UK organization. That is an isolationist/protectionist move. Not free trade.
Under NAFTA, if Canada gave preferential treatment to a Canadian organization, the US counterparts would be entitled to sue the Canadian government for loss of revenues. Saving Changes...
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