Accidental Project Manager without PMP cert vs Project Manager with PMP cert
Drake SettsuProject Manager / BloggerHi, United States
I'm interested in any feed back on the two types of Project Managers.
Accidental Project Managers learn from real life experiences leading projects. Most APM's do have exposure to PMBOK and training in project management, but no PMP certification. APM's continue to develop project management skills.
PMP's had to follow the PMI's route to become certified. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
To be successful performing as project manger you do not need to follow the PMI way or to earn a PMI´s PMP certification. Saving Changes...
Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
I wouldn't consider myself an Accidental PM . I got a few years of PM experience under my belt and then pursued the PMP Certification.
I have shared my experience after achieving the PMP Certification in my Blog
https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...rove-my-PMSpeak
I agree with the "icing on the cake" comment by Najam Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
PMP heavily depends on experience and I encourage PMI to make the exam even more situational based so in most case, when you’re a PMP, you should have a decent and solid experience. If this is not the case then the certification alone won’t hold. Saving Changes...
Rohit Kumar GoelCybersecurity | IT Consultant| Various ClientsDwarka, New Delhi, Delhi, India
In addition to various valued viewpoints from other responses to this post, I would like to add that PMP or some other recognised PM Certification may give necessary confidence to both your customer and sponsor that as a PM you may drive a project using more predictable and scientific approach based on some industry leading PM Body of Knowledge and also the certification indicates that as a PM you have necessary experience and awareness about both Project Management and Body of Knowledge which may not only be desired but often required to successfully deliver a particular project.
Also if there exist a PMO in an organisation, it may help the PMO consisting of PMP certified PMs across organisation in better and more effective implementation of various standards, tools and techniques that the PMO may have developed in line with PMBOK guide resulting in both a better project outcome and thus standardising Project Management process and practice across organisation resulting in enhanced Project Management maturity and successful project outcomes across organisation.
Sometimes, customer may also demand and can even include a precondition in their RFP or tender decoument that the project has to be managed by the performing organisation using a certified Project Manager who is either PMP or certified against some other equivalent PM Body of Knowledge acceptable to the customer. Saving Changes...
Drake SettsuProject Manager / BloggerHi, United States
Thank you everyone for the great feedback. Saving Changes...
MARK A ANNUNZIATA, SrVP/EXPERT CONSULTANCY TO THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY| ROMAN STRUCTURES, INC WELLINGTON FLDammam, Eastern Province, Saudi Arabia
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Wow! We are re-igniting an old topic that has importance to all of us!
1) For the Construction Industry 2 Major Areas of Project Management skills are not covered. If you have ever seen any commentary from me you know what I am about to explain: Safety is a Major portion of our Projects and a failure to manage this correctly results in Death. Also, Contracts are the life's blood of our Industry (this is why most of us have General Contractor licenses).
Neither of these are addressed by PMP studies, or the PMBOK.
2) In my opinion, most good PM's are very experienced with all the procedures outlined in the PMBOK guide because our Projects cannot be successful without Planning, Execution, Quality Controls, Project Controls, Technical expertise, Communications, Doc Controls, Close Out, EVM reporting. (we are never exposed to Charters or Business Plans). This is Generic and Iterative.
3) However, flawed as the PMP is for Construction, I would include a requirement to obtain a PMP Cert. in any future mentoring programs I create on future Programs. I like and appreciate the identification and logic provided by the PMBOK, and think this would be a good "base" for any young PM's in training...... BUT-As a singular requirement it is useless in my world without Safety and Contract training.
This is just my opinion from the trenches!
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