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PMP Test Results, Bizarre?

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John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM VP - Technology Project Solutions Consultant| Bank of America Jacksonville, Fl, United States
I know a person who tested earlier today and received the following "scores". Moderately Proficient in four domains and Below in Planning. My perspective is this tester may have just barely answered enough to obtain Moderately Proficient in the four domains and score very low in Planning to have failed the exam.

While I know Planning constitutes approximately 24% of the exam, is it still valid that a passing score is 62? I'm curious if any person knows any person who had four Moderately Proficient which resulted in a failure of the exam.

Thoughts?
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I know one with 5 moderatley proficient and failed - then retested and still had 5 mod prof and passed. It is as you suspect john; mod prof is a range so first time must be on the low end of the range and second time was high enough to pass
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2 replies by Demetrius Williams and John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM
May 24, 2016 7:35 AM
John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM
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Mounir, thanks for supporting my belief.
Jun 17, 2016 7:44 PM
Demetrius Williams
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Very interesting... I had not thought about there being a range. Thanks for sharing.
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hi John,

first: there is no specific passing score any more (sine longer time meanwhile), wether 62% nor 75% or any other.

PMI has changed its scoring system to a so claaed "psychometric scoring" system.
This system calculates a indivudal passing score for each and any single exam based on the difficulty of the questions.
This means that someone with 4 MP and one BP still can pass the exam, cause he had a lot of difficult questions and so he needs a lower passing score.
Someone else might have the same scores and did not pass, cause he had more of the easier questions in his exam.
And in addition what Mounir have mentioned came into place.

Regards,

Markus
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2 replies by George Lewis and John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM
May 24, 2016 5:50 AM
George Lewis
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Markus - Very Very interesting...
May 24, 2016 7:38 AM
John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM
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Markus, did the PMI do-away with the traditional passing of 62 around January 11th when they introduced their revised test? I wonder what kind of feedback they (PMI) have received where its based on the difficulty.

Thanks for the comments from Mounir, George and yourself.
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George Lewis Program/Project Manager| DXC Technology Company Heredia, Costa Rica
May 24, 2016 4:24 AM
Replying to Markus Kopko
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Hi John,

first: there is no specific passing score any more (sine longer time meanwhile), wether 62% nor 75% or any other.

PMI has changed its scoring system to a so claaed "psychometric scoring" system.
This system calculates a indivudal passing score for each and any single exam based on the difficulty of the questions.
This means that someone with 4 MP and one BP still can pass the exam, cause he had a lot of difficult questions and so he needs a lower passing score.
Someone else might have the same scores and did not pass, cause he had more of the easier questions in his exam.
And in addition what Mounir have mentioned came into place.

Regards,

Markus
Markus - Very Very interesting...
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John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM VP - Technology Project Solutions Consultant| Bank of America Jacksonville, Fl, United States
Mounir, thanks for supporting my belief.
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John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM VP - Technology Project Solutions Consultant| Bank of America Jacksonville, Fl, United States
May 24, 2016 4:24 AM
Replying to Markus Kopko
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Hi John,

first: there is no specific passing score any more (sine longer time meanwhile), wether 62% nor 75% or any other.

PMI has changed its scoring system to a so claaed "psychometric scoring" system.
This system calculates a indivudal passing score for each and any single exam based on the difficulty of the questions.
This means that someone with 4 MP and one BP still can pass the exam, cause he had a lot of difficult questions and so he needs a lower passing score.
Someone else might have the same scores and did not pass, cause he had more of the easier questions in his exam.
And in addition what Mounir have mentioned came into place.

Regards,

Markus
Markus, did the PMI do-away with the traditional passing of 62 around January 11th when they introduced their revised test? I wonder what kind of feedback they (PMI) have received where its based on the difficulty.

Thanks for the comments from Mounir, George and yourself.
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1 reply by Markus Kopko
May 24, 2016 8:36 AM
Markus Kopko
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Hi John,

no the change to the sound psychometric system was somewhen a few years ago ...

Seems that it was in the end of 2014; you may look here (you have to scroll down a bit):

http://www.pmi-lakeshore.org/cert.htm

Regards,

Markus
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
May 24, 2016 7:38 AM
Replying to John Caron, MBA, PMP, CSM
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Markus, did the PMI do-away with the traditional passing of 62 around January 11th when they introduced their revised test? I wonder what kind of feedback they (PMI) have received where its based on the difficulty.

Thanks for the comments from Mounir, George and yourself.
Hi John,

no the change to the sound psychometric system was somewhen a few years ago ...

Seems that it was in the end of 2014; you may look here (you have to scroll down a bit):

http://www.pmi-lakeshore.org/cert.htm

Regards,

Markus
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Karthik T Senior Engineering Manager| Nike Bangalore, Karnataka, India
Hi All,

Very interesting!

Still not very much clear on psychometric analysis. On what basis questions are classified as difficult/easy? Isn't that difficulty/easy is individual's perception?

Is that PMI applies weightage for each question and then determines the threshold percentage to pass?

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Thanks and regards,
Karthik
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hello Karthik,

please check out the link in my previous post for further information.
As i do understand it was originaly based on expert judgement and than developed based on the exam results from change on.

Regards,

Markus
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Karthik T Senior Engineering Manager| Nike Bangalore, Karnataka, India
Thanks Markus.
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Praveen Malik Independent Consultant| Independent Consultant New Delhi, India

There is no standard percentage. PMI discontinued that system long time ago. In extreme cases, a candidate can pass with 2 BP also.
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1 reply by Anupam
Jun 22, 2016 6:16 AM
Anupam
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