saurabh mahajanPMP, ITIL, PRINCE2| vodafonePune, Maharashtra, India
In my 8.5 years of experience I always encountered discussion with people who were influenced to work for manager rather than a company. However, the lure to work for big brands still persists in many of them.
Possibly because a good manager can guide your career, whereas a good company gives better opportunities.
So will you work in a small company if the manager is of excellent caliber, OR will you work in a big company(fortune 100,500) even if the manager is incapable ? Saving Changes...
All based on challenges you chose for yourself. When you join a Company you never know, who will be your manager, if you are not joining on a very high position. At this moment you chose the company. After a certain period of time, it really matters, if you want to continue with your manager or not. The people, who works for a manager do not continue for a long. It is always advised to work for a company rather than for any individual. Saving Changes...
saurabh mahajanPMP, ITIL, PRINCE2| vodafonePune, Maharashtra, India
Thanks Pravin for your comment.
I might have posed a question in a wrong way. I will reiterate it in different way. Suppose if you working in a big organization but which lags proper process with no employee friendly policies, but you have a good manager who really guides you in your problems and helps you achieve your project KPI's. Will you still work under the same manager ? or leave the unfriendly organization which has no career path for its employees ?
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1 reply by Pravin Kumar Shrivastava
Jun 16, 2016 12:30 PM
Pravin Kumar Shrivastava
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Ideally one will look for a company with processes in place.
A saying goes (dont know who said it) "Love your job, not your company." The implication; if you are lucky to have a good manager; is to do your job diligently and dedicatedly. It means that the company will ask you to leave soon as your "services is no more required".
Company big or small, friendly or unfriendly, for me there are two criterion. One learning. Second monetary fulfillment. So far as these goals are met, there is no reason to switch job. Saving Changes...
Bunor OputeAssistant Project Manager| Communication Network Support Services LimitedLagos, Lagos, Nigeria
In as much as I would love to work with a good Manager, working for a Company is better, a difficult Manager is a new challenge that you have to surmount. You have to learn how to deal or relate amicable with all kinds of people irrespective of where you are. When you do your job, even a difficult Manager will begin to like you. Saving Changes...
saurabh mahajanPMP, ITIL, PRINCE2| vodafonePune, Maharashtra, India
Exactly I agree with your point.
However, your criteria first learning - I have experienced that if the manager is itself not competent to carry out his day-to-day job what will you learn from him or how he will be helpful to you fetch fruitful assignments, or further help you with your assignments. So in this case only monetary fulfillment will not be enough surely.
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1 reply by Khawaja Saif ur Rehman
Jun 17, 2016 1:48 AM
Khawaja Saif ur Rehman
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With regard to managers, like parents, we do not get to choose them.
Manager (not mentor) by his presence/work style/personality etc tells you or helps you gauge either "how to get things done" or "how not to get things done". In either the case, it's worthwhile. I personally prefer people who set examples and standards of how not to do things. After all, it is with failure that we learn more. :)
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Key here is to eliminate the ambiguity: what does means good manager?. There is not company without the right manager into each position, no matter the company size. Saving Changes...
Product Operations Program ManagerBarcelona, Cataluña, Spain
My personal experience advises me to disregard small / start-up companies and work instead in a medium size growing company (less than 500 employees). Regarding the term "good manager" may be a bit misleading, perhaps a "good mentor" would be more appropriate. No doubt that it working with capable and skilled people is a great asset to be taken highly in consideration. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
I totally agree with Sergio 100% - You do not tie your career plan with a manager and if you wait for someone to teach you then you won't progress properly. You need to put more efforts on enhancing your skills yourself regardless of what your manager capabilities are. Saving Changes...
I might have posed a question in a wrong way. I will reiterate it in different way. Suppose if you working in a big organization but which lags proper process with no employee friendly policies, but you have a good manager who really guides you in your problems and helps you achieve your project KPI's. Will you still work under the same manager ? or leave the unfriendly organization which has no career path for its employees ?
Ideally one will look for a company with processes in place. Saving Changes...
How satisfied are you with your current role? Does your manager recognize the value you bring to the project? Is he catching up regularly with you? Are you getting 360 feedbacks on your strengths and areas of improvement?
Above are few questions you need to answer. A manager will always look for additional values that you bring to the project - it could be your expertise & skills, relationship with stakeholders, etc.
A company big or small hardly matters, managers are everywhere. If you see roadblocks in your growth, discuss and sort it out. Role rotation is the last resort.
Remember - more you contribute, it will be always less for your boss!! :D Saving Changes...
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