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The Catch-22 - going for the Agile cert, currently working in a non-agile environment

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Daniel Krompholz Principal Maintenance Systems Specialist, Asset Management| The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey Jamaica, Ny, United States
I'm interested in going for the agile certification through PMI but I don't have the 8 months of direct project experience with a strictly agile team. My experience would qualify as more 'rogue developer' I suspect... Other than getting a new job, does anyone see a way to legitimize non-strictly agile project experience for the agile cert?
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Hi Daniel,

have you ever thought about gaining the needed experience via volunteering?
PMI do offer regularly options therefore.

Regards,

Markus
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1 reply by Daniel Krompholz
Sep 22, 2016 5:14 PM
Daniel Krompholz
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I hadn't thought about the volunteering experience counting... just looked into it.
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Christina de Vries Consultant & Coach| itacs GmbH Berlin, Germany
Hi Daniel,

Markus' suggestion is a good one: Seek agile opportunities and gain the experience needed.

As you asked for validating your current experience you should stick to the ACP Handbook which provides you with all info needed on applying for the exam.

Bests
Christina
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Daniel Krompholz Principal Maintenance Systems Specialist, Asset Management| The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey Jamaica, Ny, United States
Never thought volunteering would give me the experience necessary for the cert. What type of volunteer activities are there that would?! I'm very interested in beginning one ASAP.
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Sep 14, 2016 5:56 AM
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Hi Daniel,

you should just have a look here:

https://www.pmi.org/membership/volunteer/opportunities

In there VRMS System they do offer plenty of various opportunities.
Just define your preferences (like Agile) and you will be offered the fitting opportunity's automatically.

Regards,

Markus
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
My recommendation is reading and understading the certification handbook (sorry if you did it).Then, any question you have, send an email to PMI customer care becasue they help a lot to people who will certificate (at least, I allways see that as far as I know).
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Christina de Vries Consultant & Coach| itacs GmbH Berlin, Germany
Just ask your local chapter or head to vrms.pmi.org. Lots of opportunities within the PMI family.

But any kind of yolunteering can help you if you can practice agile approaches - ask local communities, schools, etc. - there is no restriction where your experience comes from as long as you've done it "agile". ;)
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Sep 14, 2016 5:52 AM
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Never thought volunteering would give me the experience necessary for the cert. What type of volunteer activities are there that would?! I'm very interested in beginning one ASAP.
Hi Daniel,

you should just have a look here:

https://www.pmi.org/membership/volunteer/opportunities

In there VRMS System they do offer plenty of various opportunities.
Just define your preferences (like Agile) and you will be offered the fitting opportunity's automatically.

Regards,

Markus
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Daniel Krompholz Principal Maintenance Systems Specialist, Asset Management| The Port Authority of New York & New Jersey Jamaica, Ny, United States
Thank you. To clarify...I am concerned with the experience portion of the prerequisites... Not the education contact hours. We're on the same page here right?
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Sep 14, 2016 7:47 AM
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yes, we are ... ;)
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Markus Kopko AI Enabler for Project & Program Mgmt | Founder PMotion.ai / The PM AI Coach| PMotion.ai Hamburg, Hamburg, Germany
Sep 14, 2016 7:43 AM
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Thank you. To clarify...I am concerned with the experience portion of the prerequisites... Not the education contact hours. We're on the same page here right?
yes, we are ... ;)
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1 reply by Daniel Krompholz
Sep 22, 2016 5:16 PM
Daniel Krompholz
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Thx Markus for your feedback.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
That is because you have to read and understand the handbook. The handbook, as far as I remember, say nothing about your experience has to be in agile environments. By the way, just a comment: in my opinion, this is the only certification where, if you do not have practical experience in agile environemtns, is hard to obtain. But is my opinion only.
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1 reply by Daniel Krompholz
Sep 22, 2016 5:16 PM
Daniel Krompholz
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Thx Sergio -- appreciate your input.
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Christina de Vries Consultant & Coach| itacs GmbH Berlin, Germany
The prerequisites are quite clear for the ACP:

[...] 1,500 hours working on agile project teams or with agile methodologies. This requirement is in addition to the 2,000 hours of general project experience. [...]

You can find it here: http://www.pmi.org/certifications/types/agile-acp

So you need agile experience, it just doesn't matter where you gained it. ;)
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1 reply by Daniel Krompholz
Sep 22, 2016 5:15 PM
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Thanks Christina -- will reconsider how my hours are being counted.
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