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Code of Ethics and Professional Conduct - Antiquated?

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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
I was reviewing the code of ethics from PMI, and I've realized that last version was revised and approved in October 2006.

Do you think that after ten years we should work in an update?

By the way, someone knows if the directors are working on it for the next year?

I've created a poll because I've realized that there are some peers that prefer the anonymity of a poll. Fell free to participate too.

https://www.projectmanagement.com/polls/35...is-antiquated--
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Anupam India
Great question Maria. I think new amendments should be made. Culture has emerged as a big topic of debate over years. Another topic is women empowerment. The new amendment should focus on these areas.
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2 replies by Mayte Mata Sivera and Vincent Guerard
Dec 10, 2016 9:07 PM
Vincent Guerard
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Looking at the discussion again, I'm not sure about empowering women should be part of the code of Ethic.
Local laws and culture are making this append, maybe not has fast everywhere.
The code of ethic is about applying good practice of project management for the organisation and the client, could include something about human ressource,

I still believe it should be revisited periodically.
Dec 12, 2016 12:30 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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@Anupam, thank you for your comments. I don't believe in "positive discrimination" , then, in this case, I'm with Vincent Guerard, this topic maybe doesn't apply in the review.
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Drew Craig Sr. Agile & Product Coach| Vanguard Philadelphia, Pa, United States
In general, I'd say most things would need a refresh after 10 years. So I'd agree.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
I think to should be revisited at every revision of the PMBOK. I think that mean about every 4 years.
Revisiting the Code of Ethic should let people evaluate the need for a revision. And you could put an note concerning the fact that it was revisited.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
You raised a very good question Maria. I agree that it need to be revisited again - I would think they will do so on the next revision but not too sure.
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
Thank you for your answer, let's see if some director boards check this website and maybe they will explain if they have in mind this review for the next year.
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
By the way, people in the poll is saying No, it's curious, and the same time sad that nobody explains at this moment why not.
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1 reply by Sungjoon Park
Dec 09, 2016 11:52 AM
Sungjoon Park
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Many people might feel it is necessary to update the 2006 version and I agree with the others' opinions generally. But I feel antiquated ones may not need always to be updated in case it's still effective.
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Sungjoon Park Coral Springs, Fl, United States
Dec 09, 2016 11:11 AM
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By the way, people in the poll is saying No, it's curious, and the same time sad that nobody explains at this moment why not.
Many people might feel it is necessary to update the 2006 version and I agree with the others' opinions generally. But I feel antiquated ones may not need always to be updated in case it's still effective.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
I know somebody will hate me. But please, understand the context. The problem is: the code of conduct has been created as part of you need to define a pseudo-profession. But it has no sence in the practice. The code that has sence is the code that just in case the project manager not fullfil the organization can take legal actions against the project manager. That is what you see in medicine for exmple. And that is because medicine is a formal profession. On the other side, ethic is an ancient debate. Most of the organizations have code of ethics in place and you have to perform an annual certification to learn, understanding and adhere to that code.
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2 replies by Mayte Mata Sivera and Sungjoon Park
Dec 10, 2016 11:40 AM
Sungjoon Park
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I may not understand fully on what you truly intend to comment on the code of ethics and professional conduct. But in my opinion, PMI's code of ethics and professional conduct might be applied to only project management practitioners and community related to PMI's credentials or volunteers Each organization might have its own procedures to deal with violation of organization's code of ethics and conduct, and each organization might take disciplinary action based on its procedures.
Dec 12, 2016 12:32 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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@Sergio, this is an excellent point.
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Sungjoon Park Coral Springs, Fl, United States
Dec 10, 2016 6:46 AM
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I know somebody will hate me. But please, understand the context. The problem is: the code of conduct has been created as part of you need to define a pseudo-profession. But it has no sence in the practice. The code that has sence is the code that just in case the project manager not fullfil the organization can take legal actions against the project manager. That is what you see in medicine for exmple. And that is because medicine is a formal profession. On the other side, ethic is an ancient debate. Most of the organizations have code of ethics in place and you have to perform an annual certification to learn, understanding and adhere to that code.
I may not understand fully on what you truly intend to comment on the code of ethics and professional conduct. But in my opinion, PMI's code of ethics and professional conduct might be applied to only project management practitioners and community related to PMI's credentials or volunteers Each organization might have its own procedures to deal with violation of organization's code of ethics and conduct, and each organization might take disciplinary action based on its procedures.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Dec 08, 2016 8:59 PM
Replying to Anupam
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Great question Maria. I think new amendments should be made. Culture has emerged as a big topic of debate over years. Another topic is women empowerment. The new amendment should focus on these areas.
Looking at the discussion again, I'm not sure about empowering women should be part of the code of Ethic.
Local laws and culture are making this append, maybe not has fast everywhere.
The code of ethic is about applying good practice of project management for the organisation and the client, could include something about human ressource,

I still believe it should be revisited periodically.
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