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Sisca Yuliharyani Sr. PM Consultant | Chief Strategy Officer| Indonesia Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
I assigned to manage small IT project, which is i did not have any experience for small IT project that held based on friend relation (not professional relationship). I try to apply my knowledge as PM of large IT project but in the end the client was not happy because i apply my knowledge as PM like i did in large IT Project. My development team were very grateful on how i manage that project because i make the plan and requirements clear but the client try to gain benefit with disagreeing in the feature that agreed before. Actually i have a lot of prove that what i did was true because i always speak with data and documentation. my question is how to make my CEO understand that the client is the people who was not sure what he want (the client is close friend of my CEO) and not my team's fault that the client was not happy?
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
I will ask this interesting post based on what I understood. First of all, is not a matter of large or small projects. No matter the project size you ever will apply project management knowledge. Second, you have to define a process based on add value. Value is a subjective matters so your duty as project manager is to define and agree about value really is with all the actors. Thrid, happy is other subjective word that you must transform into objective one and the only way is to work on value. Four, if thanks to your trazability you demostrate that the feature was created from the requirement thats all you need.
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1 reply by Sisca Yuliharyani
Jan 04, 2017 7:17 PM
Sisca Yuliharyani
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First of all, is not a matter of large or small projects -- i agree, that's why i apply my knowledge like i always did in large IT Projects.

The Matter is firstly i can't "lock" the requirements no matter i try to use kinds of documentation (the client agree before and even sign the document), but in the next meeting, he will ask the different. So, i apply my knowledge and technique to prevent that behavior/risk will exist again, and i thought i was success on locking the scope, because he said that my product (software) is very satisfying and he accept all the feature. When my company wants to invoice his company, he ask to meet my CEO and told to my CEO that he was not sure he need that software because i lock the requirements which he was not sure he need that kind of feature.
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Anupam India
I echo with Sergio on project size. Project management knowledge and application remains same.
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AKSHAY JAIN Planning Group Leader| YOKOGAWA, Bahrain Gwalior, Mp, India
Pragmatic approach is also a part of Project Management, you are aware your CEO and your client are friends so after something has come as complaint, may be your CEO will not listen. If you feel agreeing demand of client would cost much to your company, you might have taken your own management into confidence before complaint. Now you may collect all facts and figure and explain your CEO, client is asking something which is out of scope and let him decide friendship or variation which is more important for him.
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1 reply by Sisca Yuliharyani
Jan 04, 2017 7:24 PM
Sisca Yuliharyani
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I will meet my CEO today and i have plan to make my CEO understand with the fact and documents i have and i will ask him to decide what is more important friendship or benefit. But, i still not so sure he want to take the risk that my company suffer looses from this kind of project because for this small IT project, my client want to open the scope and requirements until the year of 2018 (this project is just less than 30 mandays)

But after all thanks for your suggestion, i really appreciate it and agree on you
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Mayte Mata Sivera PMO Leader | Speaker | Author Ut, United States
I've observed different topics here:

- How to manage your relationship with the CEO, that is your friend? As I've written in one of my blog entries, friendship and colleagues sometimes it's not easy to manage, because usually, you'll lose the boundaries. Please feel free to check the blog entry.

https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...or-Colleagues--

- IT Project Size, this should not be an issue, as before was pointed by Anupam and Sergio. Big and Small depends on the company and organization, most important is apply correctly the project management principles.

- As I've understood, the client is not happy, then, here is the real topic, and the point that you have to put all your efforts. What was the issue? Why isn't he happy? And remember...document the lessons learned for next project.

Good luck and keep us informed about the development of the situation.
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1 reply by Sisca Yuliharyani
Jan 04, 2017 7:37 PM
Sisca Yuliharyani
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- How to manage your relationship with the CEO, that is your friend? As I've written in one of my blog entries, friendship and colleagues sometimes it's not easy to manage, because usually, you'll lose the boundaries. Please feel free to check the blog entry. https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...or-Colleagues-- -- Very interesting topic that you write, thanks for sharing

- IT Project Size, this should not be an issue, as before was pointed by Anupam and Sergio. Big and Small depends on the company and organization, most important is apply correctly the project management principles. -- I agree

- As I've understood, the client is not happy, then, here is the real topic, and the point that you have to put all your efforts. What was the issue? Why isn't he happy? And remember...document the lessons learned for next project. -- Yes, of course i will document the lesson learned because i believe my company will take this kind of projects in the future since it is the nature of my company right now (i was new consultant here, so i just collect EEF and OPA of my company)

Good luck and keep us informed about the development of the situation. -- Thank you for your support, really appreciate it and i will update my situation after i meet my CEO today
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Sisca Yuliharyani Sr. PM Consultant | Chief Strategy Officer| Indonesia Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
Jan 04, 2017 5:36 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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I will ask this interesting post based on what I understood. First of all, is not a matter of large or small projects. No matter the project size you ever will apply project management knowledge. Second, you have to define a process based on add value. Value is a subjective matters so your duty as project manager is to define and agree about value really is with all the actors. Thrid, happy is other subjective word that you must transform into objective one and the only way is to work on value. Four, if thanks to your trazability you demostrate that the feature was created from the requirement thats all you need.
First of all, is not a matter of large or small projects -- i agree, that's why i apply my knowledge like i always did in large IT Projects.

The Matter is firstly i can't "lock" the requirements no matter i try to use kinds of documentation (the client agree before and even sign the document), but in the next meeting, he will ask the different. So, i apply my knowledge and technique to prevent that behavior/risk will exist again, and i thought i was success on locking the scope, because he said that my product (software) is very satisfying and he accept all the feature. When my company wants to invoice his company, he ask to meet my CEO and told to my CEO that he was not sure he need that software because i lock the requirements which he was not sure he need that kind of feature.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Feb 17, 2017 7:18 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Once again, is a matter of process. If your CEO agree with your client comments about the requirements then she/he has "to pay" for that. The only way to "lock" requirements is to have a project change control process in place where you and your team are accountable to create all the information needed and give it to the group that will decide on the change. If your CEO is in the group then she/he will decide. And you have to execute the change. Change are always wecome. But somebody must paid for that. And to pay does not mean money only.
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Sisca Yuliharyani Sr. PM Consultant | Chief Strategy Officer| Indonesia Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
Jan 04, 2017 8:54 AM
Replying to AKSHAY JAIN
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Pragmatic approach is also a part of Project Management, you are aware your CEO and your client are friends so after something has come as complaint, may be your CEO will not listen. If you feel agreeing demand of client would cost much to your company, you might have taken your own management into confidence before complaint. Now you may collect all facts and figure and explain your CEO, client is asking something which is out of scope and let him decide friendship or variation which is more important for him.
I will meet my CEO today and i have plan to make my CEO understand with the fact and documents i have and i will ask him to decide what is more important friendship or benefit. But, i still not so sure he want to take the risk that my company suffer looses from this kind of project because for this small IT project, my client want to open the scope and requirements until the year of 2018 (this project is just less than 30 mandays)

But after all thanks for your suggestion, i really appreciate it and agree on you
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Sisca Yuliharyani Sr. PM Consultant | Chief Strategy Officer| Indonesia Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
Jan 04, 2017 1:24 PM
Replying to Mayte Mata Sivera
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I've observed different topics here:

- How to manage your relationship with the CEO, that is your friend? As I've written in one of my blog entries, friendship and colleagues sometimes it's not easy to manage, because usually, you'll lose the boundaries. Please feel free to check the blog entry.

https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...or-Colleagues--

- IT Project Size, this should not be an issue, as before was pointed by Anupam and Sergio. Big and Small depends on the company and organization, most important is apply correctly the project management principles.

- As I've understood, the client is not happy, then, here is the real topic, and the point that you have to put all your efforts. What was the issue? Why isn't he happy? And remember...document the lessons learned for next project.

Good luck and keep us informed about the development of the situation.
- How to manage your relationship with the CEO, that is your friend? As I've written in one of my blog entries, friendship and colleagues sometimes it's not easy to manage, because usually, you'll lose the boundaries. Please feel free to check the blog entry. https://www.projectmanagement.com/blog-pos...or-Colleagues-- -- Very interesting topic that you write, thanks for sharing

- IT Project Size, this should not be an issue, as before was pointed by Anupam and Sergio. Big and Small depends on the company and organization, most important is apply correctly the project management principles. -- I agree

- As I've understood, the client is not happy, then, here is the real topic, and the point that you have to put all your efforts. What was the issue? Why isn't he happy? And remember...document the lessons learned for next project. -- Yes, of course i will document the lesson learned because i believe my company will take this kind of projects in the future since it is the nature of my company right now (i was new consultant here, so i just collect EEF and OPA of my company)

Good luck and keep us informed about the development of the situation. -- Thank you for your support, really appreciate it and i will update my situation after i meet my CEO today
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
You got a excellent set of answer, from Sergio, Anupam, Akshay and Maria.
I think in the end it is to the CEO to deal with his client/friend and their relationship, considering impact on the company.
Wish you a great meeting with the CEO, you seem well prepare.
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Sisca Yuliharyani Sr. PM Consultant | Chief Strategy Officer| Indonesia Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
Hi Vincent and all,
Thanks for your input. I 've met my CEO, and he ask me to provide the client's need, but he didn't put the blame on me since i have the evidences and good explanations. I will organized meeting with my client next week to see how me and him will fix the requirements and working with the same understanding of the scope. I hope this time i can closed this project on time and within schedule baseline, also i hope i can gain my client satisfaction and the software can be the answer of his company problem
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1 reply by Mayte Mata Sivera
Jan 05, 2017 12:44 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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Sisca,

Good job with the CEO meetings. Remember to keep boundaries between both. Good luck with the client meeting.
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Muhammad Shalahuddin Head of IT Department| Subsidiary of BUMN/ SoE (State-owned Enterprise Bandung, West Java, Indonesia
I think your problem is about communication.

You are a low-context person that good communication is precise, explicit and clear, so you think your client is satisfied with your product until your client said the opposite to your CEO.

Indonesian people are commonly high-context person. In high-context cultures, communication is sophisticated, nuanced, and layered. Messages are often implied but not plainly stated. Less is put in writing, more is left open to interpretation.

More about low-context & high-context cultures: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-_and_low-context_cultures

You did great job when you met your CEO and gave good explanations so he trust you to closed your project. I hope you can close your project smoothly and than you create a good lesson learned document.
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2 replies by Mayte Mata Sivera and Sisca Yuliharyani
Jan 05, 2017 2:35 AM
Sisca Yuliharyani
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Thank you for sharing,

I aware of the difference between low context and high context cultures, that's why in the next meeting i will less writing, and more concern about what the client "really need".

I really appreciate your support and input :)
Jan 09, 2017 2:10 PM
Mayte Mata Sivera
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Hi Muhammad, thank you for your notes, but only one comment, be careful with Wikipedia...sometimes information is not accurate.
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