Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I'm listening to Axelos' PRINCE2 2017 Update. (I will share the link to the recorded version once it is available.) I am wondering how much more attractive the new changes are making PRINCE2 material and certifications?
The Guide is being updated from its 2009 last version:
* Organizational Tailoring is added
* Some elements, like configuration management, are remove
* More examples are included
The Foundation and Practitioner certifications are changing:
* Going from a 5 year to 3 year certification cycle
* Adding the option to renew through ongoing training (45 CDPs)
* Exams changing
Do you think PRINCE2 changes will have any influence on PMI directions? Saving Changes...
As Sergio noted, both PRINCE2 and PMI pursue different proposal, anyway, from my point of view I think that if there are changes in one, sure that the other will be influenced, maybe not in the directions, but something, because both share the market regarding certifications in project management. Saving Changes...
Good topic. It will be interesting to see the detail of the changes they have made. Prince2 has become rather outdated and I was wondering if it might be discontinued, nothing has improved on it since the originators, OGC, were closed in 2010ish. Our local training providers (I’m in the UK) stopped offering it too. Certainly the tailoring aspect of it will be key, but really it needs rebadging and the communications around it need changing in order to clarify what it actually is. Too often, people are given the impression that a few days of Prince2 training are all that anyone needs and they will be a competent and successful project manager, when as we all know that is a long long way from the truth.
It has, of course, been an excellent source of income for training and accreditation organisations. Saving Changes...
Malcolm WestManaging Director| Prosis Solutions Limited (PROJECT in a box)Woodstock, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
A much greater emphasis on tailoring the method to match the circumstances is the main change.
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3 replies by Anupam , Drew Craig, and Rami Kaibni
Jan 24, 2017 6:58 AM
Drew Craig
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Malcolm, thank you for sharing the links to your series.
Jan 24, 2017 11:34 AM
Rami Kaibni
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Malcom,
Great Links, thanks for sharing.
I read about PRINCE 2 online and read your blogs but did not notice anywhere that this certification is more for IT PM's. While some say it applies more to IT Project Managers, I want to know why do you believe it does apply to IT more ?
Jan 24, 2017 12:29 PM
Anupam
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Thanks Malcolm
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Thanks, Malcolm, for the additional links. Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
A much greater emphasis on tailoring the method to match the circumstances is the main change.
Malcom,
Great Links, thanks for sharing.
I read about PRINCE 2 online and read your blogs but did not notice anywhere that this certification is more for IT PM's. While some say it applies more to IT Project Managers, I want to know why do you believe it does apply to IT more ?
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2 replies by Ashley Bonner and Malcolm West
Jan 24, 2017 12:10 PM
Malcolm West
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Rami,
PRINCE2 originated as a method for large complex IT projects..back in the day when it was felt that planning such things in great detail from the start rather than using Agile was the way to go. it is still used widely in IT but now in many other sectors too. IN fact in the UK it is mandated for all public sector projects...so you could argue it is used for everything.
A couple of years ago they brought out a PRINCE2 Agile standard and the major increase in focus on tailoring in the new refresh is another indication that they feel PRINCE2 has something to bring to many sectors. Broadly I think that is right, it does a good job of breaking down good PM practice into processes which can be applied to all sorts of project types.
If you are new to it then take a look and you will definitely find some useful things to add to your PM toolkit.
Thanks
Malc
Nov 07, 2018 10:27 AM
Ashley Bonner
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We are working on implementing PRINCE2 at our bank and I can say it is not just for IT projects. It is a very beneficial methodology that asks the most important questions at the beginning of the project. Tailoring PRINCE2 is the biggest benefit because as long as you meet the basic requirements it can be used for small department projects to large organizational ones.
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Malcolm WestManaging Director| Prosis Solutions Limited (PROJECT in a box)Woodstock, Oxfordshire, United Kingdom
Jan 24, 2017 11:34 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Malcom,
Great Links, thanks for sharing.
I read about PRINCE 2 online and read your blogs but did not notice anywhere that this certification is more for IT PM's. While some say it applies more to IT Project Managers, I want to know why do you believe it does apply to IT more ?
Rami,
PRINCE2 originated as a method for large complex IT projects..back in the day when it was felt that planning such things in great detail from the start rather than using Agile was the way to go. it is still used widely in IT but now in many other sectors too. IN fact in the UK it is mandated for all public sector projects...so you could argue it is used for everything.
A couple of years ago they brought out a PRINCE2 Agile standard and the major increase in focus on tailoring in the new refresh is another indication that they feel PRINCE2 has something to bring to many sectors. Broadly I think that is right, it does a good job of breaking down good PM practice into processes which can be applied to all sorts of project types.
If you are new to it then take a look and you will definitely find some useful things to add to your PM toolkit.
Thanks
Malc
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jan 24, 2017 1:55 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Thanks a lot for your feedback Malcom - I will definitely look into it.
Sorry, but "IN fact in the UK it is mandated for all public sector projects." is incorrect.
I have been managing UK public sector projects for nearly 10 years for several different organisations and it just is not mandated by any of them. What do you base that assumption on? Saving Changes...
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