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Do anyone discuss about the decision making by top management prior to approve any project?

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Khairul Azizan Cucunaga Lecturer - PhD (candidate) Project Management (Int. Univ. MALAYA-WALES)| Universiti Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
As been studied by Ernest & Young in 2014, 64% of 365 Oil and Gas projects are facing cost overrun due to delay worldwide that cause the collective costs for the projects ran over initial projections by USD$1.7 trillion, up from USD$1.2 trillion.
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Naomi Caietti Senior Project Manager | ePMO | Higher Education | Healthcare & IT| Linkedin.com/In/NaomiCaietti
Share what is the real question and let's discuss; project selection, governance, approval delays or projects delays?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
I agree with Naomi - Please indicate what is the question so we can discuss.
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Khairul Azizan Cucunaga Lecturer - PhD (candidate) Project Management (Int. Univ. MALAYA-WALES)| Universiti Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
Since 64% of oil and gas projects worldwide are facing overrun, delay, or even incomplete as been described by Ernst & Young, I am curious to know if there is any relation between the top management decision making effectiveness and project failure / success. Most expert always treat risk management as a key that contribute to project success.
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1 reply by Jean-Eric Ancel
Mar 28, 2017 10:44 AM
Jean-Eric Ancel
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One thing sure : the real buy in of top management will impact the success rate of your project. It's all about change : if your top management does not fully endorse the change created by your project, you will observe organizational reluctance, inertia, ... in fact negative factors that will bring your projwect out of success.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
I'm not clear on what you want to discuss the cost overrun, the delay or the decision process!
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Khairul Azizan Cucunaga Lecturer - PhD (candidate) Project Management (Int. Univ. MALAYA-WALES)| Universiti Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
I would like to know how the decision making effectiveness by top management during the pre-approval stage could affect the project success or failure that contributed to cost overrun due to delay, incomplete and etc.
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Tim Podesta Director of PM/PMO| Former BP- now Independent Penn, Bucks, United Kingdom
In simple terms senior leadership need to be choosing the right project to do ; and not choosing the wrong ones - and then support a project process that makes sure the chosen project is done right through effective and efficient front end planning.
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1 reply by Khairul Azizan Cucunaga
Mar 28, 2017 7:15 AM
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Thank you Mr. Podesta. Really appreciate your reply.

I am curious to know, if decision making in project approval could be influence by EQ and also IQ. If it does, from your personal experiences,how it affect the project success? For example, in some countries where top management has a lot conflict of interest, corruptions, emotional and unqualified managers, and lack of experiences as decision maker especially in approving the mega projects that cost billion of dollar. Do you think that all the above elements will affect the project success?
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Chandrashekhar Thatte Pune, Maharashtra, India
For any project ,Project Initiation Document play a very vital role in terms of financial viability,proximity to input resources,location,connectivity land/air/sea ,environmental and geographical conditions etc.Detailed Project Report prepared by expert consultants facilitate the top management to take final decision and approve the project.Despite the best estimates ,projects face cost over-runs which needs to be managed effectively using PM practices and skills.
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1 reply by Khairul Azizan Cucunaga
Mar 28, 2017 6:58 AM
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Thank you Mr. Chandra.

Do project risk management should cover the whole process started from Project Initiation till project closing? Based on the study, project risk management only executed during the implementation phase where Earned Value Management (EVM) executed prior to project approval. Some top management merely refer to EVM to make decision. If we look at water filter analogy where big particles (top management level) are filtered before it reach pumps station and processing plant (middle management level) and then deliver to public (Line management level) for drinking water. At entrant to our home, we installed a small filter (closing stage) to make sure the water are treated from hazardous biological and the public will return a feedback. Do you think that using the same analogy in project risk management will helps to reduce the cost overruns and project delays?
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Khairul Azizan Cucunaga Lecturer - PhD (candidate) Project Management (Int. Univ. MALAYA-WALES)| Universiti Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
Mar 28, 2017 6:26 AM
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For any project ,Project Initiation Document play a very vital role in terms of financial viability,proximity to input resources,location,connectivity land/air/sea ,environmental and geographical conditions etc.Detailed Project Report prepared by expert consultants facilitate the top management to take final decision and approve the project.Despite the best estimates ,projects face cost over-runs which needs to be managed effectively using PM practices and skills.
Thank you Mr. Chandra.

Do project risk management should cover the whole process started from Project Initiation till project closing? Based on the study, project risk management only executed during the implementation phase where Earned Value Management (EVM) executed prior to project approval. Some top management merely refer to EVM to make decision. If we look at water filter analogy where big particles (top management level) are filtered before it reach pumps station and processing plant (middle management level) and then deliver to public (Line management level) for drinking water. At entrant to our home, we installed a small filter (closing stage) to make sure the water are treated from hazardous biological and the public will return a feedback. Do you think that using the same analogy in project risk management will helps to reduce the cost overruns and project delays?
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1 reply by Chandrashekhar Thatte
Mar 28, 2017 7:54 AM
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Yes,the Project Risk management should cover and manage all the project associated risks.Water filter analogy,in my opinion, can not be rightfully applied.We may relate the project selection process to the well planned and well laid rail track(top management decision) which takes the train(Stake holders) ,driven by the engine(Project Manager),to the predetermined destination provided the engine is capable and resourceful(fuel)to reach the destination in scheduled time.The train invariably gets late (cost over-run)in reaching the destination.Hope this helps !
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Khairul Azizan Cucunaga Lecturer - PhD (candidate) Project Management (Int. Univ. MALAYA-WALES)| Universiti Kuala Lumpur Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Malaysia
Mar 28, 2017 2:07 AM
Replying to Tim Podesta
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In simple terms senior leadership need to be choosing the right project to do ; and not choosing the wrong ones - and then support a project process that makes sure the chosen project is done right through effective and efficient front end planning.
Thank you Mr. Podesta. Really appreciate your reply.

I am curious to know, if decision making in project approval could be influence by EQ and also IQ. If it does, from your personal experiences,how it affect the project success? For example, in some countries where top management has a lot conflict of interest, corruptions, emotional and unqualified managers, and lack of experiences as decision maker especially in approving the mega projects that cost billion of dollar. Do you think that all the above elements will affect the project success?
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1 reply by Rama K Goberu
Apr 01, 2017 2:51 PM
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Of course, yes, Khairul.

When the top management is not in agreement with the middle management (if I may introduce that into our discussion), that is a precursor for project failure and will be a dent to the confidence of all stakeholders. It is for this reason that if a mid level PM is managing or initiating a project, they should first try to get a buy in from a senior person in the organization and ensure they have empirical evidence of why a project must be taken up along with risks involved and how to handle them. In any organizations' dynamics informal processes play a major role.

In this context, I agree with the comment by Jean-Eric Ancel. I hope that helps.

Thank you !
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Chandrashekhar Thatte Pune, Maharashtra, India
Mar 28, 2017 6:58 AM
Replying to Khairul Azizan Cucunaga
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Thank you Mr. Chandra.

Do project risk management should cover the whole process started from Project Initiation till project closing? Based on the study, project risk management only executed during the implementation phase where Earned Value Management (EVM) executed prior to project approval. Some top management merely refer to EVM to make decision. If we look at water filter analogy where big particles (top management level) are filtered before it reach pumps station and processing plant (middle management level) and then deliver to public (Line management level) for drinking water. At entrant to our home, we installed a small filter (closing stage) to make sure the water are treated from hazardous biological and the public will return a feedback. Do you think that using the same analogy in project risk management will helps to reduce the cost overruns and project delays?
Yes,the Project Risk management should cover and manage all the project associated risks.Water filter analogy,in my opinion, can not be rightfully applied.We may relate the project selection process to the well planned and well laid rail track(top management decision) which takes the train(Stake holders) ,driven by the engine(Project Manager),to the predetermined destination provided the engine is capable and resourceful(fuel)to reach the destination in scheduled time.The train invariably gets late (cost over-run)in reaching the destination.Hope this helps !
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1 reply by Khairul Azizan Cucunaga
Mar 29, 2017 9:56 PM
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Thank you Mr. Chandra. Really appreciate your reply.

During the project selection and project approval process, is there any possibility that decision making could be influence by Emotional Quotient (EQ) a.k.a. Emotional Intelligence (EQ) and also Intelligence Quotient (IQ) of the decision maker. If it does, from your personal experiences,how it affect the project success? For example, in some countries where top management has a lot conflict of interest, corruptions, emotional and unqualified managers, and lack of experiences as decision maker especially in approving the mega projects that cost billion of dollar. Do you think that all the above elements will affect the project success?
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