John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
How would you handle this? You are in a job interview and are asked to describe your worst boss, what would you say? Give a life experience for others to learn from. Saving Changes...
Understand the expectations of the boss, set it clear at first. Update the boss on project progress, give status report, inform on critical milestones, goals and achievements. Involve in crucial conversation and meetings.
Escalation or moving out of the project should be the last option.
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2 replies by Jean-Eric Ancel and John Rice
Mar 20, 2017 1:39 AM
John Rice
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Anupam,
That is a good process answer, however how you respond to the interviewer fi asked to describe your worst boss
Mar 28, 2017 10:55 AM
Jean-Eric Ancel
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I think that risky or failing situations are the best cases (but not the only ones) for detecting the worst bosses.
However, I would say that a wrong boss is someone that not protect you from organizational or external effects.
Personnally, I faced a situation where the project nearly failed because of reluctance from end users and no firm support from top management.
Although she was a sponsor for the project, my actual boss did never give me any shelter during this period (she did not want to show any involvement) and I had to manage everything by myself.
This was very tough and we needed external expertise on change management to address this tricky situation. I will always remember this person as a poor manager.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
'Worst' is situational, subjective, and relative. Worst could be a boss that is restrictive, or does not empower an individual to flourish. I would express myself differently, in an interview, but those are my experiences when thinking of a disappointing boss.
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1 reply by John Rice
Mar 20, 2017 1:41 AM
John Rice
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Andrew,
very true, the key is to knowing what is the interviewer looking for, like your loyalty and commitment
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Lisa KomidarService Delivery Manager - Sr. Engagement Manager| Optimum Healthcare ITKane, Pa, United States
Back 20+ years ago, I was interviewing at a very entry level position at the University. Everyone that I talked to about this interview told me the same thing...."Don't even interview! She is the worse boss ever. She goes through many staff assistants. She's very difficult to work for."
Well, at that time, I was a single mom and needed to increase my pay and make sure I could provide benefits for my children and myself. So I interviewed.
During the interview, I had the chance. She has asked if I had any questions. I liked what I had heard to that point. But I had to know why everyone felt that I shouldn't (or even couldn't) work with her.
I politely looked at her and said, "Professor Mc*******, I've heard that you are difficult to work for. Can you tell me what would make others think this way?"
The answer was amazing and I'm glad I asked. She politely told me that she has been in her job for many years. She has a huge responsibility (she was in charge of Undergraduate Mathematics) and in order for her to have time to teach, everything else needed to be done correctly. She had her ways and it has worked for many years. A lot of new hires will try to change those ways without learning first.
I got the job offer and I accepted. I learned so much from this woman. University Policies, working with students, etc. She was anti-computers and this was when computers were driving our work. I took my time to learn her end results. Why she needed what she was getting in the end. I then would change my way of getting to the end result and how it compared to the way she was doing it. We got a long fine. She was an amazing person and educator.
So sometimes the worst boss for someone else, can be the greatest mentor to others.
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5 replies by Bala Sripada, DOMMARAJU CHANDRASEKHAR, Dr Justin G Mamen, Drew Craig, and John Rice
Mar 19, 2017 7:56 AM
Drew Craig
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Great story Lisa, thank you sharing it with us. I have a similar story, albeit, not related to career, at least not directly.
In 10th grade, my English teacher, let's say, was not the most favorite. Now, at the time, I was not a good student. My priorities were misaligned. In the U.S., the year is broken into quarters. The first quarter was typical for me - not even trying.
Then something happened. Honestly, I don't know what. But something she did lit a match in me, and from that point on, I was a straight A student - okay, occasional B.
I owe so much to her, and where most students found reason to complain and grunt, I found reason to excel and prosper.
The point is, look at the underlying lesson from both Lisa's experience and my own. Others' experiences to not necessarily carry over to your own, and certainly does not pave the road in front of you.
Mar 20, 2017 1:45 AM
John Rice
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Lisa,
That is a great story and very reflective.
I learned that the inappropriate behavior is to bash the other boss, it shows a lack of control, disloyalty, and the inability to pull positive results from negative situations. We learn in all circumstances that will better ourselves if we pay attention and implement the necessary behavioral changes.
Thank you for sharing
Mar 22, 2017 12:49 AM
Bala Sripada
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Thank you Lisa. I completely agree with you.
Your one sentence is a lot to me "A lot of new hires will try to change those ways without learning first. "
This was the mistake i did earlier /long ago in my job- trying to change without learning first!!!
This is an eye opener statement.
Thank you very much once agian for sharing your story
Apr 08, 2017 11:51 AM
Dr Justin G Mamen
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Thank you Lisa.
Apr 12, 2017 1:05 AM
DOMMARAJU CHANDRASEKHAR
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Hi Lisa, thanks for the feedback. It is reflective.
I completely agree that every individual human will have strengths and weaknesses. One should learn to view differently to untap the strength and learn from them.
In my view we all have very limited time and better to focus on strengths rather weaknesses.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Mar 19, 2017 7:27 AM
Replying to Lisa Komidar
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Back 20+ years ago, I was interviewing at a very entry level position at the University. Everyone that I talked to about this interview told me the same thing...."Don't even interview! She is the worse boss ever. She goes through many staff assistants. She's very difficult to work for."
Well, at that time, I was a single mom and needed to increase my pay and make sure I could provide benefits for my children and myself. So I interviewed.
During the interview, I had the chance. She has asked if I had any questions. I liked what I had heard to that point. But I had to know why everyone felt that I shouldn't (or even couldn't) work with her.
I politely looked at her and said, "Professor Mc*******, I've heard that you are difficult to work for. Can you tell me what would make others think this way?"
The answer was amazing and I'm glad I asked. She politely told me that she has been in her job for many years. She has a huge responsibility (she was in charge of Undergraduate Mathematics) and in order for her to have time to teach, everything else needed to be done correctly. She had her ways and it has worked for many years. A lot of new hires will try to change those ways without learning first.
I got the job offer and I accepted. I learned so much from this woman. University Policies, working with students, etc. She was anti-computers and this was when computers were driving our work. I took my time to learn her end results. Why she needed what she was getting in the end. I then would change my way of getting to the end result and how it compared to the way she was doing it. We got a long fine. She was an amazing person and educator.
So sometimes the worst boss for someone else, can be the greatest mentor to others.
Great story Lisa, thank you sharing it with us. I have a similar story, albeit, not related to career, at least not directly.
In 10th grade, my English teacher, let's say, was not the most favorite. Now, at the time, I was not a good student. My priorities were misaligned. In the U.S., the year is broken into quarters. The first quarter was typical for me - not even trying.
Then something happened. Honestly, I don't know what. But something she did lit a match in me, and from that point on, I was a straight A student - okay, occasional B.
I owe so much to her, and where most students found reason to complain and grunt, I found reason to excel and prosper.
The point is, look at the underlying lesson from both Lisa's experience and my own. Others' experiences to not necessarily carry over to your own, and certainly does not pave the road in front of you.
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1 reply by John Rice
Mar 20, 2017 1:46 AM
John Rice
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Andrew,
I could not agree with you more
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John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Mar 18, 2017 11:26 PM
Replying to Anupam
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Understand the expectations of the boss, set it clear at first. Update the boss on project progress, give status report, inform on critical milestones, goals and achievements. Involve in crucial conversation and meetings.
Escalation or moving out of the project should be the last option.
Anupam,
That is a good process answer, however how you respond to the interviewer fi asked to describe your worst boss Saving Changes...
John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Mar 19, 2017 7:18 AM
Replying to Drew Craig
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'Worst' is situational, subjective, and relative. Worst could be a boss that is restrictive, or does not empower an individual to flourish. I would express myself differently, in an interview, but those are my experiences when thinking of a disappointing boss.
Andrew,
very true, the key is to knowing what is the interviewer looking for, like your loyalty and commitment Saving Changes...
John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Mar 19, 2017 7:27 AM
Replying to Lisa Komidar
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Back 20+ years ago, I was interviewing at a very entry level position at the University. Everyone that I talked to about this interview told me the same thing...."Don't even interview! She is the worse boss ever. She goes through many staff assistants. She's very difficult to work for."
Well, at that time, I was a single mom and needed to increase my pay and make sure I could provide benefits for my children and myself. So I interviewed.
During the interview, I had the chance. She has asked if I had any questions. I liked what I had heard to that point. But I had to know why everyone felt that I shouldn't (or even couldn't) work with her.
I politely looked at her and said, "Professor Mc*******, I've heard that you are difficult to work for. Can you tell me what would make others think this way?"
The answer was amazing and I'm glad I asked. She politely told me that she has been in her job for many years. She has a huge responsibility (she was in charge of Undergraduate Mathematics) and in order for her to have time to teach, everything else needed to be done correctly. She had her ways and it has worked for many years. A lot of new hires will try to change those ways without learning first.
I got the job offer and I accepted. I learned so much from this woman. University Policies, working with students, etc. She was anti-computers and this was when computers were driving our work. I took my time to learn her end results. Why she needed what she was getting in the end. I then would change my way of getting to the end result and how it compared to the way she was doing it. We got a long fine. She was an amazing person and educator.
So sometimes the worst boss for someone else, can be the greatest mentor to others.
Lisa,
That is a great story and very reflective.
I learned that the inappropriate behavior is to bash the other boss, it shows a lack of control, disloyalty, and the inability to pull positive results from negative situations. We learn in all circumstances that will better ourselves if we pay attention and implement the necessary behavioral changes.
Thank you for sharing Saving Changes...
John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Mar 19, 2017 7:56 AM
Replying to Drew Craig
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Great story Lisa, thank you sharing it with us. I have a similar story, albeit, not related to career, at least not directly.
In 10th grade, my English teacher, let's say, was not the most favorite. Now, at the time, I was not a good student. My priorities were misaligned. In the U.S., the year is broken into quarters. The first quarter was typical for me - not even trying.
Then something happened. Honestly, I don't know what. But something she did lit a match in me, and from that point on, I was a straight A student - okay, occasional B.
I owe so much to her, and where most students found reason to complain and grunt, I found reason to excel and prosper.
The point is, look at the underlying lesson from both Lisa's experience and my own. Others' experiences to not necessarily carry over to your own, and certainly does not pave the road in front of you.
Excellent stories Lisa and Andrew! I've been asked something similar, in that I was asked what did I hate the most about working in a job and I immediately thought of a prior boss. If I had been asked to describe my worst boss, I would answer similarly. I've had two and what I found most difficult about them was they lacked ethical behavior and did not have my back. In my years as an employee, manager, and leader, above all what I found is I can not tolerate a boss who is unethical, who gossips or speaks poorly of upper leadership or team members. In addition, it it vital that the boss act in such a way as to always support the team. I need to know they have my back and have the backs of my team members. Without that, a team cannot flourish, cannot grow or achieve superior performance. To Johns' point absolutely DO NOT ever bash on a prior boss or colleague. When reciting a story point out the areas where you learned what to do, or not to do, and how it helped you grow.
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1 reply by John Rice
Mar 20, 2017 10:00 AM
John Rice
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Thank you Liana
I agree... there is no loysltu for unethical behaviors...
Your integrity is so important.. it actually defines you
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John RiceSustainment Engineer| Lockheed MartinHarmony, Fl, United States
Mar 20, 2017 8:32 AM
Replying to Liana Underwood
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Excellent stories Lisa and Andrew! I've been asked something similar, in that I was asked what did I hate the most about working in a job and I immediately thought of a prior boss. If I had been asked to describe my worst boss, I would answer similarly. I've had two and what I found most difficult about them was they lacked ethical behavior and did not have my back. In my years as an employee, manager, and leader, above all what I found is I can not tolerate a boss who is unethical, who gossips or speaks poorly of upper leadership or team members. In addition, it it vital that the boss act in such a way as to always support the team. I need to know they have my back and have the backs of my team members. Without that, a team cannot flourish, cannot grow or achieve superior performance. To Johns' point absolutely DO NOT ever bash on a prior boss or colleague. When reciting a story point out the areas where you learned what to do, or not to do, and how it helped you grow.
Thank you Liana
I agree... there is no loysltu for unethical behaviors...
Your integrity is so important.. it actually defines you Saving Changes...