Can PMI issue an equivalency certificate mentioning pmp is equivalent to Masters in Project Manager Degree ? Any one here who have got any such certificate of equivalency from PMI ? Saving Changes...
James ShieldsIS Director - Portfolio Solutions| City and County of San Francisco, SFPDSan Francisco, Ca, United States
Probably not adding a lot more to the discussion, but essentially a Masters in just about any discipline is primarily academia. A PMP certification is substantive experience combined with academia.
Whether one or the other is viewed as preferential would be determined by the employer and the employer's needs/biases. Saving Changes...
Joseph CoutureProject Manager / Global Print Services Owner| SelfFl, United States
Sorry for re-hashing the dead. This post is over a year old but I had to comment as I believe people are vastly mistaken over the idea of a certification vs. a master's degree.
Like most said, you are comparing apples to oranges. A master's degree is a time intensive, expensive endeavor.
Anyone who has earned one can attest. Why are you measuring 7,500 hours of experience? If you look at the PMI criteria, that is for high school students. If you're considering a master's program, you likely already have a 4 year degree which is 4,500 hours. 4,500 is roughly half a year of continuous hours. Most people complete a couple of hours a month of this requirement. At the graduate level, you are expected to devote 10 hours of study time per credit hour. Most students elect to take between 6-9 credit hours of graduate courses. Also, one test is required for the certification. A master's program is full of test, discussions, major papers, sometimes a thesis thus absolutely more work involved.
And in response to the person who said they take experience over education, this is generally true unless your degree program is practicum filled and many are.
Right now I am completing my Master's degree in Executive Leadership and I can promise you that I am busy everyday either reading, writing or collaborating with my cohort.
A PMP is superior to a Masters in Project Management. A PMP represents at least 7,500 hours of actual experience leading and directing projects, as well as an objectively assessed degree of theoretical knowledge. In contrast, a Masters in Project Management is almost purely theoretical knowledge. Consider this: Would you rather have open heart surgery performed on you by someone who has done it many times, or by someone who has merely read a great deal about it?
I have completed a masters just recently which is a PMI Global Accreditation Centre for Project Management - which is approx 1900 hours of detailed training on all aspect of project management.
It is nothing like the PMP and Prince 2 these courses can be completed by any competent professional. They are just multiple-choice questions. The companies guarantee that you will pass if you pay for their course, how does that guarantee that a Project Manager has the skills to do a project, the answer is it does not.
I have over 20-years experience running all types of Projects and PMP is just the very basics of project management - MSc is just a completely different level of knowledge and training.
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Peter RapinSubject Matter Expect; Project Delivery| Independent ConsultantOntario, Canada
Fully agree with Kiron - apples and oranges. I got a Masters in Project/Construction Management from a reputable university in the 80s followed by a PMP through PMI in the 90s. Both served specific purposes and both contributed significantly in my professional career. It is/was not a choice of one or the other. I was lucky to be able to do both. Saving Changes...
DESMOND K. Tweneboah KojoGeneral Manager, Special Duties| Electricity Company of GhanaAccra, Greater Accra, Ghana
As a holder of both PMP and MSc. in Project Planning and Management, the two cannot be compared. Whilst master’s in project management is purely theoretical knowledge, it improves analytical thinking.
PMP on the other hand, combines knowledge, skills, and behaviours related to specific domains of the project, to improve our Project Management skills. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Mar 24, 2017 10:20 AM
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A PMP is superior to a Masters in Project Management. A PMP represents at least 7,500 hours of actual experience leading and directing projects, as well as an objectively assessed degree of theoretical knowledge. In contrast, a Masters in Project Management is almost purely theoretical knowledge. Consider this: Would you rather have open heart surgery performed on you by someone who has done it many times, or by someone who has merely read a great deal about it?
I have both the PMP and a Masters Degree in Project Management. A PMP certification does not come close to being equivalent to a Masters in project management. After being in my Masters program only one semester, I sat for and passed on the first attempt. Above board in all areas. I simply replied because I am offended that someone would have this opinion to begin with. Project management is management. A PMP is a multiple choice test that demonstrates you comprehend the concept of project management. The MS in PM teaches you to leverage your experience and technical skills in the art of managing projects the right way.
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Jan 17, 2023 10:00 AM
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I agree with you! The Masters was harder than the PMP exam.
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Anonymous
Mar 24, 2017 10:20 AM
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A PMP is superior to a Masters in Project Management. A PMP represents at least 7,500 hours of actual experience leading and directing projects, as well as an objectively assessed degree of theoretical knowledge. In contrast, a Masters in Project Management is almost purely theoretical knowledge. Consider this: Would you rather have open heart surgery performed on you by someone who has done it many times, or by someone who has merely read a great deal about it?
I have a MS in Project Management and a PMP. I would say that having both is better than one. The PMP is definitely an OJT to me while the MSPM is the missing link for an absolute leadership role. I may have read a lot in school but I can certainly execute on a holistic level.
A master's in Project Management = Large Scale Case Studies, Practice in Theory with all Knowledge Areas, and Master Thesis to defend your Project.
PMP = On the Job Training primarily, Confidence in the Knowledge Area gained, and Additional CE courses to stay relevant.
There are perks of two but you'll have to think about the longer term implications.
One noticeably more than others is that the candidate with an MSPM and a PMP is likely to get hired in a leadership role over someone with one credential.
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Anonymous
Apr 02, 2022 1:43 AM
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I have both the PMP and a Masters Degree in Project Management. A PMP certification does not come close to being equivalent to a Masters in project management. After being in my Masters program only one semester, I sat for and passed on the first attempt. Above board in all areas. I simply replied because I am offended that someone would have this opinion to begin with. Project management is management. A PMP is a multiple choice test that demonstrates you comprehend the concept of project management. The MS in PM teaches you to leverage your experience and technical skills in the art of managing projects the right way.
I agree with you! The Masters was harder than the PMP exam. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
A PMP certification requirements involve application processes experience.
Classoom theory at the Masters level does not/cannot replace work experience.
I carry both an MBA and PMP.
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1 reply by anonymous
May 26, 2023 4:17 PM
anonymous
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An MBA and a PMP is not the same as a MSPM and a PMP.
You have to go through the process to really know.
Apples to Orange comparison.
One is purely dedicated to PM and the other one is a mixed bag of business administration and learned PMBOK areas rather than the use of it as a whole.
It’s like saying I can do dental work because I worked in dentistry for so long but didn’t go to school to learn the depths of needed knowledge to complete with quality.
The depths of knowledge from an individual with an MSPM and experience of working as a PM vs. a person who graduated with an MBA with PM experiences is a huge difference.
I’ve been in management and leadership and understand the depths and deep knowledge that can be organized and applied.
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Anonymous
May 26, 2023 1:23 AM
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A PMP certification requirements involve application processes experience.
Classoom theory at the Masters level does not/cannot replace work experience.
I carry both an MBA and PMP.
An MBA and a PMP is not the same as a MSPM and a PMP.
You have to go through the process to really know.
Apples to Orange comparison.
One is purely dedicated to PM and the other one is a mixed bag of business administration and learned PMBOK areas rather than the use of it as a whole.
It’s like saying I can do dental work because I worked in dentistry for so long but didn’t go to school to learn the depths of needed knowledge to complete with quality.
The depths of knowledge from an individual with an MSPM and experience of working as a PM vs. a person who graduated with an MBA with PM experiences is a huge difference.
I’ve been in management and leadership and understand the depths and deep knowledge that can be organized and applied. Saving Changes...
