Jean-Eric AncelPPM Senior Expert| CapGemini EngineeringBrignais, France
We often hear about Waterfall vs Agile project management.
But have you ever faced a situation where a Waterfall management type should become Agile, and vice versa ?
In such situation, how did you manage that ? Saving Changes...
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Edward DanielsProject Manager| IndependentGlen Burnie, Md, United States
If Agile management fails on a project, the team is probably not well-fused and working together. The same issue would apply if waterfall methodology was adopted as well. Agile is supposedly a lean, very lean form of waterfall. I think a waterfall project not faring well can benefit from Agile methodology. Interesting question, but i would think a waterfall management would evolve into Agile to get features rolled out faster than vice versa. Saving Changes...
Interesting question, maybe it would be beneficial to do in a mix mode call bimodal. I posted the link in an other discussion from Gartner Group
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/3036017 Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
First of all, waterfall project management and agile project management does not exists. What exists is project managemenet performed in different environments. Second, Agile is an approach, waterfall is a life cycle process based on a life cycle model (predictive). So, you can apply Agile approach with waterfall lfe cycle models. My recommendation is to clear understand what both things are. In my actual work place we have project managers working at the same time in projects using waterfall life cycle and a methods based on Agile approach (SCRUM and DSDM). Saving Changes...
Wade HarshmanScrum Master| GDITIndianapolis, In, United States
First, I must agree with Sergio, because I typically resist the phrases "Agile project management" and "Agile methodology." I understand why we PMs use these phrases, but it sounds like a construction company that uses "Agile hammers" or a musician that plays an "Agile piano." I have also become very resistant to "Agile vs Waterfall" arguments.
That said, I have been in the situation described. It was supposed to be a relatively easy development project. After the work started, however, we learned that the scope was not as well defined as we had thought, and we had a good deal of research and discovery to perform.
In this case, I kept our project plan as a repository for documentation, but I created a working backlog that could be modified as we learned more about our project. I worked with the team to setup regular intervals where we could review our work, share our discoveries, and plan the next interval. The transition from one structure to another was relatively easy; the trickier part was explaining to the sponsor that we had abandoned our over-confident plan.
I can't think of a time when the reverse has been true, but if I were part of a development team and learned that a similar product had been created using a waterfall plan, I would very much want to see that plan!
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Mar 30, 2017 3:22 AM
Jean-Eric Ancel
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Many thanks for this reply. Please do not mind about the wording of my question, I just wanted to send a short question. I neither had the willingness to put these 2 concepts in opposition...
However, your concrete example is clear and reminds me of a similar situation.
This is the reason why I launched this discussion.
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Jean-Eric AncelPPM Senior Expert| CapGemini EngineeringBrignais, France
Mar 29, 2017 2:44 PM
Replying to Wade Harshman
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First, I must agree with Sergio, because I typically resist the phrases "Agile project management" and "Agile methodology." I understand why we PMs use these phrases, but it sounds like a construction company that uses "Agile hammers" or a musician that plays an "Agile piano." I have also become very resistant to "Agile vs Waterfall" arguments.
That said, I have been in the situation described. It was supposed to be a relatively easy development project. After the work started, however, we learned that the scope was not as well defined as we had thought, and we had a good deal of research and discovery to perform.
In this case, I kept our project plan as a repository for documentation, but I created a working backlog that could be modified as we learned more about our project. I worked with the team to setup regular intervals where we could review our work, share our discoveries, and plan the next interval. The transition from one structure to another was relatively easy; the trickier part was explaining to the sponsor that we had abandoned our over-confident plan.
I can't think of a time when the reverse has been true, but if I were part of a development team and learned that a similar product had been created using a waterfall plan, I would very much want to see that plan!
Many thanks for this reply. Please do not mind about the wording of my question, I just wanted to send a short question. I neither had the willingness to put these 2 concepts in opposition...
However, your concrete example is clear and reminds me of a similar situation.
This is the reason why I launched this discussion. Saving Changes...
S RajasekarSenior Project Manager| AllscriptsBangalore, Karnataka, India
it happens because people just simply wants to move to agile for no reason , it become trend as well
If people understand Waterfall and Agile where it fits and benefits this problem will not occur
I have seen people created mindset/wave in industry that waterfall is bad and agile is good.
Until people understand these there is no end to this Saving Changes...