How to deal with opposite agendas in a project management team? Which should be the key success factors in this context?
Nuno FialhoManaging Partner| NINVA - Innovative Business SolutionsSamora Correia, Santarém, Portugal
How to deal with opposite agendas in a project management team (with members from different companies/stakeholders)? Which should be the key success factors to reinforce in this context? Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
When you wrote "agendas" do you mean objectives not aligned to the project? If that is the case, I am facing it all days. Solutions were from putting all related to programs/projects as a personal objective inside the annual objectives to work with them to understand how the program/project will make the less impact inside their agendas. But at the end. programs/projects are created to put in place strategic initiatives so always will be somebody at high level that could help you to align people objectives. In my case,
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1 reply by Nuno Fialho
Oct 09, 2017 7:54 AM
Nuno Fialho
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Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your views, I agree with you that this situation is very common in our daily work. Nevertheless I would like to emphasize the situation where we have several project managers working in a multi-company project. And in these cases, it could become somehow more complex to deal with. Therefore, I find important to figure out the key success factors to deal with it as soon as possible.
Best regards, NF
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MARK A ANNUNZIATA, SrVP/EXPERT CONSULTANCY TO THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY| ROMAN STRUCTURES, INC WELLINGTON FLDammam, Eastern Province, Saudi Arabia
Nuno-
In my opinion, the Project Manager is responsible for communicating the goals and objectives to the Team. If your team has different Agendas than meeting or shooting at the team goal, then the problem is with you- The Coach.
In the Construction world- I would be in big trouble if the team was not focused on the Primary Goal of Project Execution and completion. This elucidation of my priorities always occurs during the "forming & storming" phases of directing the new team. My motto: Work Hard--Have Fun--No Drama!
M
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1 reply by Nuno Fialho
Oct 09, 2017 9:52 AM
Nuno Fialho
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Hi Mark,
Thanks for your opinion, Yes, you are so right. In fact, the project team should have clear priorities and the project manager should make the project success a common goal for all stakeholders. The issue here is that sometimes we found ourselves before awkward situations, where there is a very thin line between the success for all (the project success) and the unsuccess for some. This remind me the Games Theory where in some cases if you decide for what is really good for you, you may end up worse.
Best regards, NF
Saving Changes...
Nuno FialhoManaging Partner| NINVA - Innovative Business SolutionsSamora Correia, Santarém, Portugal
Oct 09, 2017 6:56 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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When you wrote "agendas" do you mean objectives not aligned to the project? If that is the case, I am facing it all days. Solutions were from putting all related to programs/projects as a personal objective inside the annual objectives to work with them to understand how the program/project will make the less impact inside their agendas. But at the end. programs/projects are created to put in place strategic initiatives so always will be somebody at high level that could help you to align people objectives. In my case,
Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your views, I agree with you that this situation is very common in our daily work. Nevertheless I would like to emphasize the situation where we have several project managers working in a multi-company project. And in these cases, it could become somehow more complex to deal with. Therefore, I find important to figure out the key success factors to deal with it as soon as possible.
Best regards, NF
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2 replies by Eric Simms and Sergio Luis Conte
Oct 09, 2017 8:03 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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That is the situation I am facing today. I am program manager for level 1 programs (the critical success factor for the organization) where internal/external people from more than 65 countries around the world are involved and providers that are giving us infraestructure, communication services (basically) that are critical components into the programs. So, I understood your situation. Then, what we did to deal with all that complexity is creating a framework (very simple, I was the author) focused on value generation. As "Lean style" we have point to eliminate wasted, objective points. And that is what we do.
Oct 12, 2017 12:29 PM
Eric Simms
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Hi Nuno,
It sounds like the PMs on this project are all equal, there's no clearly defined PM with authority to direct other PMs in the project, and the PMs have different objectives. I've been in this situation before, and unless the PMs work together the project will likely fail, and the PMs will take the blame. I suggest you gather the PMs and explain the situation, then work out how you want to proceed. The only hope is for the PMs to agree on what goals they will pursue - if the PMs try to chase their own personal interests, they will each fail. It's possible for the PMs to achieve their individual goals in this project, but only if they do so by working in concert with the others.
Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Oct 09, 2017 7:54 AM
Replying to Nuno Fialho
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Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your views, I agree with you that this situation is very common in our daily work. Nevertheless I would like to emphasize the situation where we have several project managers working in a multi-company project. And in these cases, it could become somehow more complex to deal with. Therefore, I find important to figure out the key success factors to deal with it as soon as possible.
Best regards, NF
That is the situation I am facing today. I am program manager for level 1 programs (the critical success factor for the organization) where internal/external people from more than 65 countries around the world are involved and providers that are giving us infraestructure, communication services (basically) that are critical components into the programs. So, I understood your situation. Then, what we did to deal with all that complexity is creating a framework (very simple, I was the author) focused on value generation. As "Lean style" we have point to eliminate wasted, objective points. And that is what we do.
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1 reply by Nuno Fialho
Oct 12, 2017 12:13 PM
Nuno Fialho
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Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your insights, as I could understand from both your comments, you identified two key success factors: the alignment of objectives reinforced by the sponsors of each stakeholder/partner, and; a framework focused on value generation, used as a hierarchy or chain of objectives, all of them contributing to the main project goal.
These are quite interesting also for my case, so thanks again for sharing your experience and for your contribution.
Best regards, NF
Saving Changes...
Nuno FialhoManaging Partner| NINVA - Innovative Business SolutionsSamora Correia, Santarém, Portugal
Oct 09, 2017 7:12 AM
Replying to MARK A ANNUNZIATA, Sr
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Nuno-
In my opinion, the Project Manager is responsible for communicating the goals and objectives to the Team. If your team has different Agendas than meeting or shooting at the team goal, then the problem is with you- The Coach.
In the Construction world- I would be in big trouble if the team was not focused on the Primary Goal of Project Execution and completion. This elucidation of my priorities always occurs during the "forming & storming" phases of directing the new team. My motto: Work Hard--Have Fun--No Drama!
M
Hi Mark,
Thanks for your opinion, Yes, you are so right. In fact, the project team should have clear priorities and the project manager should make the project success a common goal for all stakeholders. The issue here is that sometimes we found ourselves before awkward situations, where there is a very thin line between the success for all (the project success) and the unsuccess for some. This remind me the Games Theory where in some cases if you decide for what is really good for you, you may end up worse.
Best regards, NF Saving Changes...
Nuno FialhoManaging Partner| NINVA - Innovative Business SolutionsSamora Correia, Santarém, Portugal
Oct 09, 2017 8:03 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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That is the situation I am facing today. I am program manager for level 1 programs (the critical success factor for the organization) where internal/external people from more than 65 countries around the world are involved and providers that are giving us infraestructure, communication services (basically) that are critical components into the programs. So, I understood your situation. Then, what we did to deal with all that complexity is creating a framework (very simple, I was the author) focused on value generation. As "Lean style" we have point to eliminate wasted, objective points. And that is what we do.
Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your insights, as I could understand from both your comments, you identified two key success factors: the alignment of objectives reinforced by the sponsors of each stakeholder/partner, and; a framework focused on value generation, used as a hierarchy or chain of objectives, all of them contributing to the main project goal.
These are quite interesting also for my case, so thanks again for sharing your experience and for your contribution.
Best regards, NF
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Oct 12, 2017 4:14 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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That´s right what we do. We have our objectives to achieve. Our focus is to achieve that. And we eliminate all wasted (no matter what it is) from the process to achieve that. On the other side, the organization has a win-win culture to work with our providers. For us, client is the next on the process chain no matter where they belongs to.
Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Oct 09, 2017 7:54 AM
Replying to Nuno Fialho
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Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your views, I agree with you that this situation is very common in our daily work. Nevertheless I would like to emphasize the situation where we have several project managers working in a multi-company project. And in these cases, it could become somehow more complex to deal with. Therefore, I find important to figure out the key success factors to deal with it as soon as possible.
Best regards, NF
Hi Nuno,
It sounds like the PMs on this project are all equal, there's no clearly defined PM with authority to direct other PMs in the project, and the PMs have different objectives. I've been in this situation before, and unless the PMs work together the project will likely fail, and the PMs will take the blame. I suggest you gather the PMs and explain the situation, then work out how you want to proceed. The only hope is for the PMs to agree on what goals they will pursue - if the PMs try to chase their own personal interests, they will each fail. It's possible for the PMs to achieve their individual goals in this project, but only if they do so by working in concert with the others. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I find it hard to believe you would have more than one PM on a project. That alone is a recipe for disaster.
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2 replies by Eric Simms and Nuno Fialho
Oct 12, 2017 12:43 PM
Eric Simms
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I'd say there are no PMs on this project. A PM directs others, and it appears no one on this project has the authority to do that. I'd love to see the Project Charter for this endeavor.
Oct 13, 2017 5:21 AM
Nuno Fialho
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Hi Stéphane,
I can understand your point, it is really difficult for us and a great risk to the project, however I am convinced that it is possible as long as everyone understands each other position and goals, and if you could combine them to be aligned with the project main goal. But, you are right, it is tough and sometimes may arise some tension between us.
Best regards, NF,
Saving Changes...
Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
Oct 12, 2017 12:34 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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I find it hard to believe you would have more than one PM on a project. That alone is a recipe for disaster.
I'd say there are no PMs on this project. A PM directs others, and it appears no one on this project has the authority to do that. I'd love to see the Project Charter for this endeavor.
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1 reply by Nuno Fialho
Oct 13, 2017 5:13 AM
Nuno Fialho
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Hi Eric,
Thanks for your contributions. In fact, the project has several PMs but we manage to define a clear distribution of responsibilities between us by defining several project streams that should concur to the overall project plan. We had to function as a PM team and we had to work out a clear commitment between us, so our different set of personal/company goals could be compatible to the project main objectives.
So when you said that there are no PMs, I have to agree with you, there is a PM team.
As a matter of fact, I have had similar experiences in the past, and in one particular case this distributed PM team structure was a complete disaster for the project as a whole since the PMs were not able to work together as a team. In the end the impact for the customer was tremendously negative in all project dimensions.
Best regards, NF
Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Oct 12, 2017 12:13 PM
Replying to Nuno Fialho
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Hi Sergio,
Thanks for your insights, as I could understand from both your comments, you identified two key success factors: the alignment of objectives reinforced by the sponsors of each stakeholder/partner, and; a framework focused on value generation, used as a hierarchy or chain of objectives, all of them contributing to the main project goal.
These are quite interesting also for my case, so thanks again for sharing your experience and for your contribution.
Best regards, NF
That´s right what we do. We have our objectives to achieve. Our focus is to achieve that. And we eliminate all wasted (no matter what it is) from the process to achieve that. On the other side, the organization has a win-win culture to work with our providers. For us, client is the next on the process chain no matter where they belongs to. Saving Changes...
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