Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
To use an old proverb, Mounir: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."
When I undertook my PMP certification in 2003, I was already an experienced project manager. I only saw getting the PMP as a notch on my belt. (My boss told me I had to get it.)
I found the process of studying, preparing and getting certified made me a better person and project manager. Did my boss tell me I was better? No. But deep down, I knew I was a better version of myself for it. Saving Changes...
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Stephan
Sorry, my message was not clear, my apology. I was not questioning YOU or that the PMP adding value to you. The intent of the message is that the construction industry and capital project industry do not see value in the certification.
Also to be clear, that does not mean the PMP has no value. The industry does not see the value and one side of the reason is related to PMI and the other side is due to the industry mindset - see my latest blog, I expand on both points.
By the way, this is not about the PMP only - but PMI certifications in general, including CAPM, PgMP, and the rest.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Oct 27, 2017 11:02 AM
Stéphane Parent
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I appreciate your understanding of my point of view, Mounir.
It seems many industries are in the same boat as construction. The engineering world, for example, wants an engineer to manage projects, even though they call that person a project manager. They never ask for a PM certification, not even as a desirable. Sometimes they don't even ask for PM experience.
Is Vincent only interested in the PM certification for its value in the construction industry? If so, then perhaps Vincent should focus on industry certifications instead.
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I appreciate your understanding of my point of view, Mounir.
It seems many industries are in the same boat as construction. The engineering world, for example, wants an engineer to manage projects, even though they call that person a project manager. They never ask for a PM certification, not even as a desirable. Sometimes they don't even ask for PM experience.
Is Vincent only interested in the PM certification for its value in the construction industry? If so, then perhaps Vincent should focus on industry certifications instead. Saving Changes...
Anshuman JainSenior Project Manager| TMNASNew Jersey, United States
as PMI says, Project Management is not specific to certain industries or type of project we take on, doing PMI certifications definitely expands one knowledge base to next level which helps a lot depending on how one gets to apply them. So it depends on your role, and function. Saving Changes...
Mounir, what Stéphane is saying is that the PMP journey makes us better project managers, regardless of whether or not an industry sees value in the certification. The construction industry is going to value someone's engineering or architecture or construction qualifications over a PMP, but when it comes to project management, a certified project manager who has say 10 years industry experience should hold more value that a non-certified project manager with the same experience. I would suggest that most project managers in construction came up through their trade, and over time began and then continued to manage projects without any formal qualification in PM. There's nothing wrong with learning on the job, it's the best way. However, when comparing apples with apples, the PMP certification surely holds value, and I suspect over time this may translate into more exposure in the construction industry. Saving Changes...
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Sante
I understand Stephane position.
Also, please note that I never said the PMP (and other PMI certifications) have no value. It did in the past for me and this is why I pursued it back in 1998.
The thread here and my comments and blog post is reflecting the perspective of the industry; or more accurately, why I think the construction industry (as an industry represented by its executives and management) does not value PMI certifications.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Oct 28, 2017 1:06 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Thanks Mounir, I have always wondered why the construction industry doesn't value the PMP. In the Philippines I was involved in some construction projects, and they never even heard of a PMP.
Thanks Mounir, I have always wondered why the construction industry doesn't value the PMP. In the Philippines I was involved in some construction projects, and they never even heard of a PMP. Saving Changes...
