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What is the meaning to you to get the PMP certification?

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JOONMIN SUH Project Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & Trading Seongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
It seems like getting a driving license after passing test and some exercise. He/She has to use the skills and knowledge at the real traffic conditions out there. Like this, he/she has to study in more detail to reflect the knowledges in the his/her real project and feedback the outcomes after complete of the project.
Do you agree that if he/she can tailor all the processes of the knowledge areas in the PMBOK Guide for any project, he/she is a safe driver of the project?
Tailoring is the key to run the project with safe in risky conditions.
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JOONMIN SUH Project Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & Trading Seongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Dec 01, 2017 5:02 AM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Theory X (and Y) was developed my Douglas McGregor. Basically it asserts two sets of assumptions about how managers view employees. Theory X asserts that employers don't like to work, will do anything to avoid it, and should be pushed or punished into working. Theory Y asserts that employees enjoy working, and don't need to be mirco-managed, and should have a degree of autonomy. In summary, Theory X people are generally pessimistic, not well liked, but get the job done (some managers are this way). Theory X people are optimistic, well liked, and also get the job done (most leaders are this way).
Hi Sante
It's very interesting theory :-)
I will go further about the theory X.
Thanks for your kind answer.
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Jay Gopal Data Integration Manager| Alithya Inc Arlington, Va, United States
Nov 28, 2017 11:48 AM
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Its a nice comparison to driver's license ! You can teach the driver how to safely drive, but the driver's personality and decision making ability would make them a better driver. Same as to being a PM, the main challenge would be to adjust your personality in line with the team. You might sometimes have to follow Theory X with some team members to achieve the goal (like speeding to avoid a slow moving vehicle). This all comes with your skills of adjusting to what is put in front of you. (whether it is a vehicle or a person) Tailoring is key.
They are McGregor's theories of motivation and management. Theory X is looked up as negative and Y as positive. There are bunch of articles about them if you google them. This seems pretty easy to understand if you want to learn more - https://www.mindtools.com/pages/article/newLDR_74.htm
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Jay Gopal Data Integration Manager| Alithya Inc Arlington, Va, United States
Dec 01, 2017 5:02 AM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Theory X (and Y) was developed my Douglas McGregor. Basically it asserts two sets of assumptions about how managers view employees. Theory X asserts that employers don't like to work, will do anything to avoid it, and should be pushed or punished into working. Theory Y asserts that employees enjoy working, and don't need to be mirco-managed, and should have a degree of autonomy. In summary, Theory X people are generally pessimistic, not well liked, but get the job done (some managers are this way). Theory X people are optimistic, well liked, and also get the job done (most leaders are this way).
Thanks, Sante. Just saw your response after replying.
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JOONMIN SUH Project Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & Trading Seongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Nov 28, 2017 11:48 AM
Replying to Jay Gopal
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Its a nice comparison to driver's license ! You can teach the driver how to safely drive, but the driver's personality and decision making ability would make them a better driver. Same as to being a PM, the main challenge would be to adjust your personality in line with the team. You might sometimes have to follow Theory X with some team members to achieve the goal (like speeding to avoid a slow moving vehicle). This all comes with your skills of adjusting to what is put in front of you. (whether it is a vehicle or a person) Tailoring is key.
Make sense. Thank you for your kind answer.
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JOONMIN SUH Project Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & Trading Seongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Nov 27, 2017 9:27 PM
Replying to Eric Simms
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I'd say 'yes’; if a PM tailors the PMBOK to a project, s/he will likely manage the project successfully.
I think a primary reason PMs encounter problems despite having a PMP is that they regard the PMBOK as a recipe book, and believe they simply need to follow it exactly to get perfect results every time. These PMs try to force PMBOK strategies onto their projects, then wonder why their projects fail. Instead, I see the PMBOK concepts as an artist's palette full of different paints. A PM must be skilled and knowledgeable enough to know how much of which concepts to apply to a project to produce the desired results. Moreover, a PM should understand the PMBOK concepts deeply enough to uniquely combine them to address the project’s needs in ways not described in the PMBOK. This is what ‘tailoring the PMBOK to the project’ means to me.
Thank you for your comments. Project is unique and that is why we should taoilor the guide fit for purpose with understanding them as you pointed.
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JOONMIN SUH Project Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & Trading Seongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Nov 27, 2017 10:46 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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If someone decides to use a book to assist them in running a project, make it an overlay book that sits on top of the MBOK, say for example Rita's Exam Prep book, which gives clear direction for projects and relates it to the PMBOK section which can be referenced for deeper understanding.
Thank you for your recommendation. I believe it will support who in struggle only with PMBOK guide.
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Anish Abraham Privacy Program Manager| University of Washington Auburn, Wa, United States
I would agree with Eric on this. PMBOK is a framework which will definitely help to manage the project successfully. Also, my understanding is that PMP certified project managers are at least to some extent committed to project management as a profession.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Hi Sante
I am pretty sure it is a typo mistake on your last sentence ((Theory X people are optimistic, well liked, and also get the job done (most leaders are this way)). It should be Theory Y
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Dec 24, 2017 7:34 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Yes indeed Riyadh, it's a typo, thanks for pointing that out :-)
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Najam Mumtaz Retired Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan
No project is similar in nature and PMBOK guides provide guidelines to manage them. Like the driving instructor will tell you to look around for any kind of obstruction before you put your vehicle in gear or check your rear view mirror to be sure before overtaking or lane change. In real life it's the project manager's decision to decide what principle/ guideline/ tool & technique is a better fit for his project/ organization, this is where PMBOK guide talks about tailoring.
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Dec 25, 2017 9:45 PM
JOONMIN SUH
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Hi Najam,
Thanks for your detail descriptions on the tailoring.
Joonmin
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Dec 23, 2017 11:59 PM
Replying to Riyadh Salih
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Hi Sante
I am pretty sure it is a typo mistake on your last sentence ((Theory X people are optimistic, well liked, and also get the job done (most leaders are this way)). It should be Theory Y
Yes indeed Riyadh, it's a typo, thanks for pointing that out :-)
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