JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
The PMI Talent Triangle from PMBOK Guide 6th edition stands for Technical project management skill, Leadership skill and Strategic and Business Management skill. "To be the most effective, project managers need to have a balance of these three skill set.
Similar requirement from the PMBOK Guide 5th edition follows;
"Effective project managers require a balance of technical, interpersonal, and conceptual skills that help tehm analyze situations and interact appropriately.
- Technical - Technical
- Leadership - Interpersonal
- Strategic and Business - Conceptual (?)
There is no specific description about the "Conceptual" skill from PMBOK Guide 5th edition. What is your definition or requirement of the "Conceptual" skill? Saving Changes...
Conceptual skills are individual cognitive or mental skills - one example in that leg of the Talent Triangle might be the ability to envision the desired end state for a project so that as the PM, you can effectively communicate it to your team and to other key stakeholders.
Kiron
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1 reply by JOONMIN SUH
Dec 12, 2017 9:07 PM
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Thank you for your answer with an example.
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Paul RadulescuBusiness Technology Mgmt| DeHavilland Aircraft of CanadaToronto, Ontario, Canada
Technical - is the "how".
Leadership - is "with whom"
Strategic & Business - is "the target".
If you don't know where to drive, how to drive and whom to drive, you're in the follower's party. Some, like it that way. Some others don't. People and people..
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Dec 12, 2017 9:11 PM
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@Paul, your answer make me to think where I'am with whom for what objective.
Thank you.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
To be honest this is a first try to balance all needed to perform all related to project management umbrella: project, program, portfolio, and business analysis. There are a lot of work to do in the field mainly to clarify it. In fact, if you search inside the PMI website you will see that a new version of Competitive Framework is going to be published. If you ask me, at this time, is a mess. I am saying it after talking with people that created the triangle. It is a mess including that you will hear people that belongs to the top management inside the PMI group performing presentations where they collide between the PMI has defined into the standards as definitions of some terms. Sad, but is the "creative chaos". I hope, for the good of all.
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Dec 12, 2017 9:19 PM
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Yes, that is my next question what is the relationship between BA (Business Aanalysis) and Strategic & Business management skills.
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JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Dec 12, 2017 6:12 AM
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Joonmin -
Conceptual skills are individual cognitive or mental skills - one example in that leg of the Talent Triangle might be the ability to envision the desired end state for a project so that as the PM, you can effectively communicate it to your team and to other key stakeholders.
Kiron
Thank you for your answer with an example. Saving Changes...
JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Dec 12, 2017 8:48 AM
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Technical - is the "how".
Leadership - is "with whom"
Strategic & Business - is "the target".
If you don't know where to drive, how to drive and whom to drive, you're in the follower's party. Some, like it that way. Some others don't. People and people..
@Paul, your answer make me to think where I'am with whom for what objective.
Thank you. Saving Changes...
JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Dec 12, 2017 3:16 PM
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To be honest this is a first try to balance all needed to perform all related to project management umbrella: project, program, portfolio, and business analysis. There are a lot of work to do in the field mainly to clarify it. In fact, if you search inside the PMI website you will see that a new version of Competitive Framework is going to be published. If you ask me, at this time, is a mess. I am saying it after talking with people that created the triangle. It is a mess including that you will hear people that belongs to the top management inside the PMI group performing presentations where they collide between the PMI has defined into the standards as definitions of some terms. Sad, but is the "creative chaos". I hope, for the good of all.
Yes, that is my next question what is the relationship between BA (Business Aanalysis) and Strategic & Business management skills.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Dec 13, 2017 4:44 AM
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Business Analysis basement skills are strategic & management. The role is close to them including the best practices said that business analyst has to participate into strategic definition sessions.
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Anish AbrahamPrivacy Program Manager| University of WashingtonAuburn, Wa, United States
I agree with Kiron, I think people with conceptual skills are creative, and can work through abstract concepts and ideas. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Dec 12, 2017 9:19 PM
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Yes, that is my next question what is the relationship between BA (Business Aanalysis) and Strategic & Business management skills.
Business Analysis basement skills are strategic & management. The role is close to them including the best practices said that business analyst has to participate into strategic definition sessions.
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Dec 15, 2017 12:49 AM
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Thank you Sergio for your answer.
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JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Dec 13, 2017 4:44 AM
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Business Analysis basement skills are strategic & management. The role is close to them including the best practices said that business analyst has to participate into strategic definition sessions.
Thank you Sergio for your answer. Saving Changes...