Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
The current trend , at-least for IT Project Management seems to be demanding more and more Agilists, Product Managers and Scrum Masters, rather than Prince2 or PMP Certified Project Managers. In fact , the jobs are demanding a combination of the two .
Just wondering which of the certifications have members of this site found useful in their work.
I know that we already use Agile practices like Kanban Boards, Daily Standups , Sprints/Iterations and Retrospectives , so I am actually asking if being certified has helped you more than merely using the practices.
I am contemplating doing one of the four that i have listed above because i do not have enough experience to qualify for PMI -ACP just yet.
So it will be good to have this jargon on my CV just for a rainy day. Saving Changes...
CSM I think is overrated evident by its easy passing rate. PSM1 seems better. But these are scrum certifications. With Agile I don't think it really matters which one you do, because as you have seen in the job ads, they just say "agile experience" or "qualified in agile". I don't even think they know all the certifications themselves. AgilePM kind of has everything in the title doesn't it ;-) Saving Changes...
It's rare that a hiring manager or recruiter will go just by an agile credential. Companies which are serious about agile transformation will look for practitioners with the scars on their backs more than the letters after their names...
Kiron
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1 reply by Debashish Das
Dec 16, 2017 4:50 AM
Debashish Das
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Kiron, I just experienced a situation which is exactly opposite to this. The scenario you described is Ideal, but in reality companies do look for the letters after the names primarily than the scars on the back. Majority of the times especially the bigger companies don’t even bothered to look for scars.
I don’t want to name any company, but resently a hiring manager of one of top-50 companies posted a job listing which reads like,
* Experience needed 0-2years.
* PMP “degree” is required
These two lines certainly proves they don’t know anything about pmp except the three letters.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
A certification will help demonstrate you have gone through a formal training/exam to earn the designation. Your experience and accomplishments applying 'Agile practices' is what will be sought after. Saving Changes...
Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
Thanks all.... I have decided that to make a foray into Agile Delivery, i will pursue AgilePM..... surely not the favorite term for Sergio :) Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
I was just recently asked if I was interested in being a project manager for a short-term project. The mandatory requirements included an agile certification. Project management certifications were down into the desirable requirements.
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2 replies by Kiron Bondale and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Dec 14, 2017 6:49 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Stéphane -
That's very interesting - I wonder if the individuals who wrote the job description realize that certain agile certifications can be attained merely by taking a course & passing an exam with no demonstrable experience?
Kiron
Dec 14, 2017 7:27 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Thaht's interesting Stéphan, I find job ads here are the other way around.
I was just recently asked if I was interested in being a project manager for a short-term project. The mandatory requirements included an agile certification. Project management certifications were down into the desirable requirements.
Stéphane -
That's very interesting - I wonder if the individuals who wrote the job description realize that certain agile certifications can be attained merely by taking a course & passing an exam with no demonstrable experience?
Kiron
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Dec 14, 2017 7:46 PM
Stéphane Parent
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That was my first thought as well, Kiron. I'm amazed at how often I see project manager postings that ask for the wrong thing.
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Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
Please check out my Blog on exactly what Stephane alluded to ......." Define Digital Project Manager for me "..... Saving Changes...
I was just recently asked if I was interested in being a project manager for a short-term project. The mandatory requirements included an agile certification. Project management certifications were down into the desirable requirements.
Thaht's interesting Stéphan, I find job ads here are the other way around.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Dec 14, 2017 7:47 PM
Stéphane Parent
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That's the way it should be, Sante.
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Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Dec 14, 2017 6:49 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Stéphane -
That's very interesting - I wonder if the individuals who wrote the job description realize that certain agile certifications can be attained merely by taking a course & passing an exam with no demonstrable experience?
Kiron
That was my first thought as well, Kiron. I'm amazed at how often I see project manager postings that ask for the wrong thing. Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Dec 14, 2017 7:27 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Thaht's interesting Stéphan, I find job ads here are the other way around.
That's the way it should be, Sante. Saving Changes...
