Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
With the recent discussions on achieving past goals, and looking forward to 2018 on targets and certification goals, I wanted to gain further insight as to what motivates our community members in determining their certification bucket list.
What influences your decision?
Popularity, Interest, Work Requirement, Career Progression? A combination of several?
I think you should base your choice on a mix of factors that are yours and the market.
So it will put in consideration mainly ROI and available time. Saving Changes...
Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
I am seriously thinking of doing one or two certifications in Agile in 2018 because of compulsion rather than choice. It almost seems like if you don't have Agile , you cannot be a Project Manager these days. Good traditional Project Management skills, qualification and experience seem to be sacrificed at the altar in favor of the quick and dirty flavor of Agile . The percentages of jobs being advertised for Agile vs Traditional are 95 to 5 Saving Changes...
JOONMIN SUHProject Engineering Manager| Samsung Construction & TradingSeongnam, Gyeonggi, South Korea
Risk Management is very interesting area to me after PMP ceritification. Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Dec 17, 2017 8:58 AM
Replying to Najam Mumtaz
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For me its combination of everything. I have been managing projects for a long time but only last year I heard about a more structured approach of handling projects offered by PMI and it had been very fruitful for me during my current role (That was the the first reason).
I am preparing myself to shift my career in about 3 years time and to embrace the business organizations I need to be equipped with tools to handle projects effectively (That was the second reason)
Agile is picking up momentum around the world and I wanted to gain experience in Agile way of doing projects. (That was the third reason).
These were the goals for this year.
For next year, I am weighing two-three options : PSM, RMP or PBA.
@ Andrew, Maybe you can help me decide.
Great response, Najam. I appreciate your candor, and great to see your initiative to focus forward on your career aspirations and targets. Keep it up!
Your progressions seem to remain within the project management family. The RMP looks like an interesting designation. The PSM is different, a bit more specific to role as a Scrum Master. If you think SM may be in your future, go for that as well. The direction you choose is up to you!
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1 reply by Najam Mumtaz
Dec 17, 2017 9:11 PM
Najam Mumtaz
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Thank you Andrew, It seems RMP, it is going to be.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Dec 17, 2017 10:20 AM
Replying to Ahmad Yahya
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Personally, the word certification is kinda overrated. Yes, you need them to put yourself ahead of others, or as a bargaining chips, or as leverage for a job or business opportunity but for me, it is all about challenging yourself and learning new skills and acquiring new knowledge.
Thanks for sharing your insights Ahmad. I certainly do not disagree. And although I used the term certification, I do believe there is a difference b/t certification and professional designation. I suppose an individuals motivation distinguishes how the achievement can be rated, though still subjective. You can think of it as there are two types, those that do and those that don't, and even if purity is the grail, its also a chess game to be a player in the world of setting oneself apart from the competition. Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Dec 17, 2017 10:59 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Andrew -
Given the financial and personal time costs involved in attaining and maintaining a credential, starting with "why" is a very good idea!
A combination of competitive differentiation and role requirements have driven by certification aspirations. The former was why I got my PMP in 2000 (back when it was still the exception rather than the rule!) and my PMI-RMP in 2011. The latter was why I got the CDAP & CDAI in 2016 as I needed them to teach agile courses within my previous company, and the PMI-ACP this year as I needed it to teach agile courses within my current company.
Unless I see a need based on one or the other of these two drivers, I'm unlikely to pursue anymore. First, the ongoing costs of maintaining multiple credentials is getting prohibitive and I don't necessarily feel I'm learning more through the certification process than I can learn through other experiential, relationship and learning methods.
Kiron
Thank you, Kiron. I cannot argue with that! And definitely something to consider - the cost to maintain! Saving Changes...
Great response, Najam. I appreciate your candor, and great to see your initiative to focus forward on your career aspirations and targets. Keep it up!
Your progressions seem to remain within the project management family. The RMP looks like an interesting designation. The PSM is different, a bit more specific to role as a Scrum Master. If you think SM may be in your future, go for that as well. The direction you choose is up to you!
Thank you Andrew, It seems RMP, it is going to be. Saving Changes...
Anonymous
Personally, I do not really think highly of certifications, especially the most popular one. The problem is not the concept of certification but they way they are administered and offered where the focus is to pass an exam rather to really learn real - practical project management.
What I am trying to say, if you need a paper to prove something - go for it. However, you can learn much more by reading and applying; teaching your colleague a PM concept, research, write and present on PM topics. Identify weak areas in the PM practice in your organizations and find solutions.
I think for those who want to continue working with the same organization, finding solutions for weak or non-existing formal practices will get you more recognition and further advancement. In the career management four stages model - this is about moving from a colleague (one of the guys) to a mentor or a leader role.
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2 replies by Deepesh Rammoorthy and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Dec 18, 2017 12:43 AM
Deepesh Rammoorthy
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Good advice from a theoretical point of view , but out there in an interview , apart from having knowledge of Project Management and /or Agile practices , you have to show the certification to back it up , the same way you have to show a university degree to backup your application for the job
Dec 18, 2017 4:03 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Certifications are necessary and always will be. It's a short way to confirm at least a rudimentary level of specialization.
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Deepesh RammoorthyICT Project Manager ( PMP®AgilePM®Certified ScrumMaster® (CSM®))| Australian Red Cross Blood ServiceTarneit, Vic, Australia
Good advice from a theoretical point of view , but out there in an interview , apart from having knowledge of Project Management and /or Agile practices , you have to show the certification to back it up , the same way you have to show a university degree to backup your application for the job Saving Changes...
Mansoor MustafaSenior PM| Government DepartmentRawalpindi Punjab, Pakistan
I will try to purse my studies in risk managemnt and PMI ACP Saving Changes...