Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Good Question, George.
From real estate development point of view, during the periods in question, there are usually lots of absences especially from the on site teams. There is always higher risk of delays in those periods and higher risk of security on site breaches which could end up with vandalisim and damages that could delay the project too so additional measures are normally taken.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 20, 2017 12:45 PM
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Rami - that's exactly why I posted the question...
Quoting from you... "There is always higher risk of delays in those periods and higher risk of security on site breaches which could end up with vandalisim and damages"
I just think that we ourself sometimes as PMs are thinking on our well deserved time off, and do not pay attention to the criticality.
Thansk for your input, great as usual Rami...
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Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
I work for the U. S. federal government, so the time between December 10th through the first week after the new year is when people take their 'use or lose' leave. Projects predictably slow down because with each passing day more people are out of the office. I don't regard this as a risk; I just extend the duration of tasks occurring during this time. As for holiday greetings, I don't email them to my teams as a group. Some senior managers send a holiday email to everyone in the organization, they usually strike me as pro forma and insincere. I interact with my teams enough that I can wish them holiday greetings via IM, phone call or in person. This feels more authentic to me than sending a mass email.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 20, 2017 8:55 AM
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Erik - Interesting, that's an extended risky period...
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Mansoor MustafaSenior PM| Government DepartmentRawalpindi Punjab, Pakistan
Thought provoking question, Agree with with Rami, lots of absence from site at this point of time and always have risk of delays, site theft or security breacches and result in delays and overruns in term of cost and schedule
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 20, 2017 8:54 AM
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Mustafa - Thought provoking indeed, this period is always challenging...
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
George,
Our development team is offshore, so from a dev perspective, activities continue as normal, though, there are other holiday's throughout the year that we track and add to the calendar.
From a SH perspective, yes, lots of planned vacations, and ad-hoc vacations to use those last remaining PTO days - like me! We certainly plan for these. I only have one ongoing project at the moment which goes to UAT the week b/t Xmas and the New Year.
Now, all that said, we have a change freeze from December through early January. This means no production changes (special cases aside). So we start planning in Q3 to ensure our timelines match up with this and that all SH's are aware. Many project requests come in late in the year requesting for a Q4 release (to have it for the new year), but b/c of the reduced window from the change freeze, many times there simply is not enough time/capacity to complete these requests.
And of course, I always wish those I'm working with a happy holiday season.
For companies which offset their fiscal year ends from the calendar year end, there is usually a recognition that planning milestones in the weeks leading up to Xmas & New Year is not a good idea.
However, when a company's fiscal year and calendar year end are the same, the challenge with traditional annual planning cycles could be that funding is yanked if not used by year end.
In such cases, there can be a mad dash to get work done by December 31 which runs into the reality of resource shortfalls as in many companies they have a "use it or lose it" policy for vacation time as well as annual project funding!
Kiron
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1 reply by George Lewis
Dec 20, 2017 8:57 AM
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Kiron - So those "use it or lose it" means unplanned vacations and OOO days? interesting risk.
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Dec 20, 2017 7:42 AM
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George,
Our development team is offshore, so from a dev perspective, activities continue as normal, though, there are other holiday's throughout the year that we track and add to the calendar.
From a SH perspective, yes, lots of planned vacations, and ad-hoc vacations to use those last remaining PTO days - like me! We certainly plan for these. I only have one ongoing project at the moment which goes to UAT the week b/t Xmas and the New Year.
Now, all that said, we have a change freeze from December through early January. This means no production changes (special cases aside). So we start planning in Q3 to ensure our timelines match up with this and that all SH's are aware. Many project requests come in late in the year requesting for a Q4 release (to have it for the new year), but b/c of the reduced window from the change freeze, many times there simply is not enough time/capacity to complete these requests.
And of course, I always wish those I'm working with a happy holiday season.
Craig - detailed response! tks Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Dec 20, 2017 7:40 AM
Replying to Mansoor Mustafa
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Thought provoking question, Agree with with Rami, lots of absence from site at this point of time and always have risk of delays, site theft or security breacches and result in delays and overruns in term of cost and schedule
Mustafa - Thought provoking indeed, this period is always challenging... Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Dec 20, 2017 7:38 AM
Replying to Eric Simms
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I work for the U. S. federal government, so the time between December 10th through the first week after the new year is when people take their 'use or lose' leave. Projects predictably slow down because with each passing day more people are out of the office. I don't regard this as a risk; I just extend the duration of tasks occurring during this time. As for holiday greetings, I don't email them to my teams as a group. Some senior managers send a holiday email to everyone in the organization, they usually strike me as pro forma and insincere. I interact with my teams enough that I can wish them holiday greetings via IM, phone call or in person. This feels more authentic to me than sending a mass email.
Erik - Interesting, that's an extended risky period... Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Dec 20, 2017 8:16 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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George -
For companies which offset their fiscal year ends from the calendar year end, there is usually a recognition that planning milestones in the weeks leading up to Xmas & New Year is not a good idea.
However, when a company's fiscal year and calendar year end are the same, the challenge with traditional annual planning cycles could be that funding is yanked if not used by year end.
In such cases, there can be a mad dash to get work done by December 31 which runs into the reality of resource shortfalls as in many companies they have a "use it or lose it" policy for vacation time as well as annual project funding!
Kiron
Kiron - So those "use it or lose it" means unplanned vacations and OOO days? interesting risk.
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1 reply by Dinah Young
Dec 20, 2017 9:16 AM
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"use it or lose it" should be planned vacation days. It is just that everyone seems to plan to use these at the same time.
Personally, I took every Friday off in October and November to use up my "use it or lose it" days, because I knew many people would be out in December. One of my team members took the entire month off to visit family in India.