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Use of RSMEANS to estimate construction project!

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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
What is your experience in using MEANS to estimate a construction project?

RSMEANS is the full name, always used MEANS.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Never heard of it before so it would be interesting to see the feedback.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Rami

You could check at https://www.rsmeans.com/products/ebooks/20...ata-ebooks.aspx
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Thanks Vincent. I checked the link, it has some cost books for sale (For sure very expensive) but still did not get the idea. Maybe I should do more research.
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1 reply by Vincent Guerard
Feb 06, 2018 2:20 PM
Vincent Guerard
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In short what I understand is you could estimate the volume / length of what is to be constructed and tables in the book would tell you estimated time to construct.

If you need to install 20 km of finer optic with information on what is aerial, underground etc you could have a reference time for your estimate. I understand there are factor for seasons and regions.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Feb 06, 2018 1:07 PM
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Thanks Vincent. I checked the link, it has some cost books for sale (For sure very expensive) but still did not get the idea. Maybe I should do more research.
In short what I understand is you could estimate the volume / length of what is to be constructed and tables in the book would tell you estimated time to construct.

If you need to install 20 km of finer optic with information on what is aerial, underground etc you could have a reference time for your estimate. I understand there are factor for seasons and regions.
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Feb 06, 2018 2:24 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Thanks Vincent. It would be interesting to see the input from our fellow colleagues.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Feb 06, 2018 2:20 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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In short what I understand is you could estimate the volume / length of what is to be constructed and tables in the book would tell you estimated time to construct.

If you need to install 20 km of finer optic with information on what is aerial, underground etc you could have a reference time for your estimate. I understand there are factor for seasons and regions.
Thanks Vincent. It would be interesting to see the input from our fellow colleagues.
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Julia Cunningham Manager Project Management| Battelle Richland, Wa, United States
My organization uses a combination of RS Means CostWorks and Sage Timberline Estimating, with an RS Means database. Timberline (now officially, Sage) is powered by trade-specific cost databases, and enables us to do takeoffs and fair cost estimates We have modified some of our databases to reflect our local labor rates, and can choose more global rates for developing estimates in other areas of the country.
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1 reply by Vincent Guerard
Feb 07, 2018 12:30 AM
Vincent Guerard
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Thanks for your input, I will look at Sage.

Any preference, any give you a closer estimate?
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Feb 06, 2018 3:27 PM
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My organization uses a combination of RS Means CostWorks and Sage Timberline Estimating, with an RS Means database. Timberline (now officially, Sage) is powered by trade-specific cost databases, and enables us to do takeoffs and fair cost estimates We have modified some of our databases to reflect our local labor rates, and can choose more global rates for developing estimates in other areas of the country.
Thanks for your input, I will look at Sage.

Any preference, any give you a closer estimate?
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Julia Cunningham Manager Project Management| Battelle Richland, Wa, United States
Estimating accuracy is defined to a large degree on the level of detail of the inputs, so, theoretically, the same inputs into both programs should give you similar outputs.
Having said that, the reporting and features of RS Means CostWorks and Sage Timberline are different. In the industry in which I work, Timberline reporting is the "gold standard" and people are familiar and comfortable with the way the estimates are presented, which gives those more credibility at times.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Thanks Julia

Could it be that more experience you have with one, more you are confident with the estimate and its bias?

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