Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Before my fans request my participation I am here (hehehehe. Sorry about the bad joke but is about my interaction in other discussions about this topic). Here my answers:
1-Agile Project Management does not exists. What exists is project management performed into environments where Agile practices are used. Take a look to the new PMBOK Guide and you will no find one reference about Agile Project Management.
2-Agile and Waterfall are not matter of comparison. Agile is "a way of behave and thinking with focus on client and quality to deliver value". Is a philosophy that was born in 1990 (I was there) as an alternative or improvement of Lean. Time after (I was part too) it was taken by the software movement that created the greatest implementation of Agile in my personal opinion. Waterfall is a life cycle process based on Predictive life cycle model. You can apply Agile using Waterfall life cycle process.
3-Agile PM does not exists. Do not confuse the use of Agile based methods to do something with being Agile something.
If you ask me, no matter I was part, take a closer look to the PMBOK Guide (new version). I think the first chapters explaned very well all these. Just avoid to read the Agile Practice Guide.
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1 reply by Adnan Shareef
Feb 15, 2018 10:32 AM
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Loool loved your sense of humor.
That definitely prove my misunderstanding about the subject.
I will go with your advice & read the PMBOK 6th edition to clear the ambiguity.
Thank you Sergio.
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Adnan ShareefEPMO Director| JEDCO (Jeddah Airports Company)Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Feb 15, 2018 9:56 AM
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Before my fans request my participation I am here (hehehehe. Sorry about the bad joke but is about my interaction in other discussions about this topic). Here my answers:
1-Agile Project Management does not exists. What exists is project management performed into environments where Agile practices are used. Take a look to the new PMBOK Guide and you will no find one reference about Agile Project Management.
2-Agile and Waterfall are not matter of comparison. Agile is "a way of behave and thinking with focus on client and quality to deliver value". Is a philosophy that was born in 1990 (I was there) as an alternative or improvement of Lean. Time after (I was part too) it was taken by the software movement that created the greatest implementation of Agile in my personal opinion. Waterfall is a life cycle process based on Predictive life cycle model. You can apply Agile using Waterfall life cycle process.
3-Agile PM does not exists. Do not confuse the use of Agile based methods to do something with being Agile something.
If you ask me, no matter I was part, take a closer look to the PMBOK Guide (new version). I think the first chapters explaned very well all these. Just avoid to read the Agile Practice Guide.
Loool loved your sense of humor.
That definitely prove my misunderstanding about the subject.
I will go with your advice & read the PMBOK 6th edition to clear the ambiguity.
Sergio has fully answered 1 and 2 so I won't repeat his words of wisdom.
With regards to your third question, I would say as always, it depends. Agile mindset can be applied to any project but a specific agile delivery method or its practices may or may not be applicable.
As with all projects, tailoring your approach to fit the needs and context of the project is critical.
Elements of an agile delivery approach could be used if the value provided in the management consulting engagement can be delivery early and regularly vs. all at the end. As opposed to the traditional consulting approach of discovery, analysis and proposal, you'd need to find a way to do this more iteratively and with closer involvement of your customer throughout the engagement.
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Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
My first thought, before even clicking in was 'Uh-oh....', not a bad uh-oh, just an inside community joke : )
Really just seems to be a buzz term these days. These are seemingly used for recruiters or organizations looking for project managers with experience with different approaches with the ability to apply as needed. Saving Changes...
Adnan ShareefEPMO Director| JEDCO (Jeddah Airports Company)Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
Excuse my confusion about the terminology "Agile".
I got curious since it is trending almost everywhere nowadays as Andrew said. Saving Changes...
Anish AbrahamPrivacy Program Manager| University of WashingtonAuburn, Wa, United States
You nailed it, Sergio and I agree with Kiron and Andrew.
In my opinion agile methodologies are great, but it does not provide much of value, when it comes to managing a project. Saving Changes...
You Should Use Waterfall If…
Your client knows exactly what they want, and you’re very confident that there won’t be any major changes in scope throughout the project. Waterfall works great for building software for clients who have clearly defined requirements that aren’t likely to change throughout the life cycle of your project—think government contracts or legacy systems. When projects are simple and predictable, you can benefit from Waterfall’s inherent stability and linear development path.
You Should Use Agile If…
You’re building a new product in an uncertain world and you have a real need for speed. If you don’t have a lot of information up front, enforcing strict requirements and planning at the beginning of your project can lead to costly mistakes further down the line. Agile was designed to reduce the cost of change and uncertainty—which is why it’s no surprise that many startups swear by the methodology. Agile excels when you don’t have a clear picture of the end goal and requirements are constantly changing.
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1 reply by Adnan Shareef
Feb 16, 2018 9:08 AM
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I suppose this clarifies the difference between Agile & Waterfall methodologies.
I appreciate your elaboration Kevin.
It's a case of terminology. If you see the phrase "Agile project management", just read it as projects managed in an Agile environment. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Do not worry Adnan. From 1998 up to date (I mean including my actual work place) organizations hired me to implement Agile and I spent time to helping them to understand that Agile is not what they think it is. I prefer that they say "so, we do not continue" instead being "Dead On Arrive". BUT I do not own the truth then I am spending time here to learn from others comment (people that have written comments above helped me a lot to do that). Then take a look to references like PMBOK Guide V6, Rick Dove´s "Response Ability" book, Manifesto for Agile Software Development if you work with software, "Business Agility Manifesto" recently published, individual works published by Manifesto authors that you can apply to any type of products like Arie Van Bennekum, etc.
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1 reply by Adnan Shareef
Feb 16, 2018 9:13 AM
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Thank you for the suggested references Sergio.
I would appreciate it if there are any light articles, blogs or even youtube vids talking about the subject.
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Anonymous
When an organization have hundreds of millions in assets and looking for a new cash cow, you can imagine the reasons behind the hype on agile.
Agile Project Management, Agile PMO, Agile Program Management, Agile Business. Based on observations at least 1/3 (if not 50%) of the post on PM is about Agile and possibly most of them do not understand what agile is or attack waterfall to justify their existence.
Sergio - 100% with you
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1 reply by Adnan Shareef
Feb 16, 2018 9:14 AM
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So it is a matter of marketing strategy to promote the methodology you mean ?
