What is the role of a Project Manager in Benefits realisation?

Thank you for your reply.

Cher Vincent,

Si j'ai bien compris, le chef de projet doit délivrer une certaine capacité ou actif et leurs bénéfices viendront après, donc il n'aura aucun rôle à jouer dans la realisation de ces bénéfices, c'est ça?

Farhad,

C’est une façon de le voir. Selon moi le PM a un rôle dans la réalisation, s’il ne livre pas un projet que permet la réalisation des bénéfices, c’est un premier problème. Puis il y a le transfert, la formation, documentation, etc. qui permettrons l’atteinte des objectifs.

Le PM est responsable de plus que la livraison d’une boite qui permettra de réaliser les bénéfices. Dans une interprétation étroite de la gestion de projet, le projet termine à la livraison ou clôture de l’objet du projet.

Dans certaines industries dont la construction, il y a deux étapes dans la fin du projet. Une première la réception provisoire puis la définitive, entre les deux une validation de l’obtention d’un produit qui correspond au contrat. Dans ce contexte le PM doit s’assurer de la réalisation de bénéfices.

Dans chaque industrie des mesures similaires existent.

Durant la réalisation du projet le PM doit aviser les parties prenantes de l’atteinte potentielle des objectifs du projet. Le PM a donc un rôle important dans la réalisation des bénéfices

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Farhad,

It's a way to see it. In my opinion the PM has a role in the realization, if it does not deliver a project that allows the realization of the profits, it is a first problem. Then there is the transfer, training, documentation, etc. that will allow the achievement of objectives.

The PM is responsible for more than the delivery of a box that will make the profits. In a narrow interpretation of project management, the project ends upon delivery or closure of the project object.

In some industries whose construction, there are two stages in the end of the project. A first provisional acceptance and the final, between the two a validation of obtaining a product that corresponds to the contract. In this context the PM must ensure the realization of benefits.

In every industry similar measures exist.

During the implementation of the project, the PM must inform the stakeholders of the potential achievement of the project objectives. The PM therefore has an important role in the realization of the benefits

Cher Vincent,

Très bonnes idées en ce qui concerne l'étape de transition. Je suis aussi d'accord que le chef de projet soit responsable et redevable de la qualité des produits (les livrables) qui doivent être en mesure de realiser les bénéfices selon les exigences (requirements) des clients/usagers.
Dans la Metodologie PRINCE2® le rôle de definir aussi bien des exigences que des bénéfices est octroyé à l'Utilisateur Principal (Senior User) qui est aussi membre de comitê de Pilotage de projet et pas au Chef de Projeto qui se responsabilise pela qualité de livraison.
"L'Utilisateur Principal:
Ses responsabilités sont les suivantes:
Spécifier les besoins (exigences) de ceux qui utiliseront les produits du projet.
Faire la liaison entre l'Equipe de Management de Projet et les Utilisateurs.
S'assurer que la solution remplit les critères et exigences des Utilisateurs, spécifiquement en terme de qualité et de facilité d'usage."
Fournir les informations nécessaires pour le Plan de Revue des Bénéfices.
Sources: http://fr.prince2.wiki/Organisation

qu'est-ce que vous en pensez?

Dear Najam,

Good thoughts, however, since the project manager's role traditionally is only to deliver the solution and disband his team once the products are accepted and/or commissioned, then there is a problem managing the realisation of the remaining benefits (those which only using/operation the solution will bring).

The PRINCE2® method gives the role of defining requirements as well as the expected benefits to Senior User and his staff (coming from client/user organisation).
The Senior User
The Senior User has the following responsibilities:

- To specify the needs (requirements) of the Users that will use the project products.
- To liaise between the Project Management Team and the Users.
- To make sure the solution will meet the needs of the Users, especially in terms of quality and ease of use, and against requirements.
- To supply the benefits information for the Benefits Review Plan.

(Source: http://prince2.wiki/Organization)

What are your thoughts about this approach?

I fully agree with you Kiron. My point is: benefits are achieved by the solution where solution is equal to "the process" to create the product/service/result PLUS "the thing" to create. "the operation was successful but the patient is dead" does not applies in project management. Why? Because a project is not successful if does not achieve the expected quality in the estimated cost and in needed time. The project manager must be on charge of assure that. It is all she/he can do because the project manager scope of work. But to determine all these things somebody must help the organization in defining "the thing" and it is the business analyst. In the case of a surgery the surgeon performs business analysis and project management.

I like your approach of a shared responsibility with beneficiaries, since the project manager's role traditionally is only to deliver the solution and disband his team once the products are accepted and/or commissioned, then there is a problem managing the realisation of the remaining benefits (those which only using/operation the solution will bring).

The PRINCE2® method gives the role of defining requirements as well as the expected benefits to Senior User and his staff (coming from client/user organisation).
The Senior User
The Senior User has the following responsibilities:

- To specify the needs (requirements) of the Users that will use the project products.
- To liaise between the Project Management Team and the Users.
- To make sure the solution will meet the needs of the Users, especially in terms of quality and ease of use, and against requirements.
- To supply the benefits information for the Benefits Review Plan.

(Source: http://prince2.wiki/Organization)

What are your thoughts about this approach?

Good thoughts, however, since the project manager's role traditionally is only to deliver the solution and disband his team once the products are accepted and/or commissioned, then there is a problem managing the realisation of the remaining benefits (those which only using/operation the solution will bring).

The PRINCE2® method gives the role of defining requirements as well as the expected benefits to Senior User and his staff (coming from client/user organisation).
The Senior User
The Senior User has the following responsibilities:

- To specify the needs (requirements) of the Users that will use the project products.
- To liaise between the Project Management Team and the Users.
- To make sure the solution will meet the needs of the Users, especially in terms of quality and ease of use, and against requirements.
- To supply the benefits information for the Benefits Review Plan.

(Source: http://prince2.wiki/Organization)

What are your thoughts about this approach?