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Does anybody know what is the source of this statement in the PMBOK Guide? Spending sufficient time communicating (research shows that top project managers spend about 90% of their time on a project

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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
“Spending sufficient time communicating (research shows that top project managers spend about 90% of their time on a project in communicating)”… (PMI, 2017, p.61)
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Samuel Berroa de La Rosa Engineer.| Food processing / Construction Management Pa, United States
Yes , it is estimated that an effective project manager spends about 90% of his time communicating , and 50% of that time is spent communicating with the project team. Is part of the role of PM
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Feb 17, 2018 10:06 PM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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I already found the source for the 90%, but what is the research basis of the 50%?
Do you know the authors of this second results?
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Anish Abraham Privacy Program Manager| University of Washington Auburn, Wa, United States
Feb 17, 2018 5:39 PM
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Not sure about the source, but would like to know more about this.
Thanks for posting this question.
Thanks for sharing this, Farhad.
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Samuel Berroa de La Rosa Engineer.| Food processing / Construction Management Pa, United States
You can find that information in Pulse of the Profession is the annual global survey of project, program and portfolio managers charting the major trends in project management. It is in the PMI web site.
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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Feb 17, 2018 9:03 PM
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I have seen mentioned in PMI site Library
Rajkumar, S. (2010). Art of communication in project management. Paper presented at PMI® Research Conference: Defining the Future of Project Management, Washington, DC. Newtown Square, PA: Project Management Institute.

This paper focuses on the importance of communication in project management. Nothing is more important to the success of a project than effective communication. More effective communication = Better project management is obviously known to everyone in project management, but we do face difficulties in implementing it due to various factors like the nature of the project, structure of the organization etc. About 90% of the time in a project is spent on communication by the project manager. If this continues in a project, there is a danger of missing the deliverables or other outcomes as required by the sponsor. This paper highlights more specific details like, what communication means in a project, the steps required for effective communication, the major obstacles in communication, how to overcome obstacles through communication sharing, the importance of communications in diverse work groups and provides a four-step process

In some other places it shows between 70 to 90 % so I guess it depends.
Yes I had come to that article, but the author is not duly referencing the original research source, which is Andy Crowe’s research in his book, "Alpha Project Managers" estimated that PM’s spend as much as 90% of their time communicating in one way or another so it is not surprising that effective communication makes such a difference to the success of a project. http://www.greenbankltd.com/communication-...oject-managers/

Link to the book in which the research was first published in 2006:
https://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Project-Manag...e/dp/0990907414
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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Feb 17, 2018 9:37 PM
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Yes , it is estimated that an effective project manager spends about 90% of his time communicating , and 50% of that time is spent communicating with the project team. Is part of the role of PM
I already found the source for the 90%, but what is the research basis of the 50%?
Do you know the authors of this second results?
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Feb 18, 2018 10:13 AM
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Farhad -

Assuming the original source for the statistic was Rita, short of using a Ouija board I doubt there's any way to learn how she came up with it.

If it was me, I'd have had a representative sample of PMs across multiple projects at different stages in their lifecycle across multiple industries report their time against activities over a few weeks and then map those activities to communication & non-communication-related ones. That would likely provide as good an estimate as any for an average...

Kiron
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Interesting to Know.
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Cheikh FAYE Microsoft Dynamics 365 Business Expert, CEO and owner| Eurêka Technologies Dakar, Senegal
In all cases, whatever the percentage, communication is key. The only outcome without a good communication management is collapse.I believe that beyond the number 90% which seems to be is a good reference, efficient communication is also as important.
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Feb 18, 2018 10:48 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Cheikh
The point is that the methodology of this research is somewhat questioned. Starting with the communication concept: Any real manager (job of managing multidisciplinary subordinated teams and other partners) communicates all the time, that is, 100% of his productive time is used either to plan, analyse problems and risks, coordinate, allocate resources, monitor, control or report. All of these activities are done by reading, listening, talking to people or writing things. So it is hard to find something that the manager does that is not related to communication.
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Shahid Anees Sr.Project Manager| Confidential Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India
Hi All,

I have just seen this ( A Guide to the Project Management Body of Knowledge (PMBOK® Guide) – Sixth Edition.

"Spending sufficient time communicating (Research shows that top project managers spend 90% of their time on a project communicating);", under section qualities and skills of a leader, part1.
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Feb 18, 2018 10:47 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Shahid,

My original question was exactly this: Which research and done by whom backs this statement in the PMBOK® Guide?
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Feb 17, 2018 10:06 PM
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I already found the source for the 90%, but what is the research basis of the 50%?
Do you know the authors of this second results?
Farhad -

Assuming the original source for the statistic was Rita, short of using a Ouija board I doubt there's any way to learn how she came up with it.

If it was me, I'd have had a representative sample of PMs across multiple projects at different stages in their lifecycle across multiple industries report their time against activities over a few weeks and then map those activities to communication & non-communication-related ones. That would likely provide as good an estimate as any for an average...

Kiron
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1 reply by Farhad Abdollahyan
Feb 18, 2018 10:45 AM
Farhad Abdollahyan
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Dear Kiron,

Indeed, Rita mentions this statistics in her best seller manual of PMP Preparatory Course, but the research itself was not done by her.

The original source is in Andy Crowe’s research in his book, "Alpha Project Managers" that estimated that PM’s spend as much as 90% of their time communicating in one way or another so it is not surprising that effective communication makes such a difference to the success of a project. http://www.greenbankltd.com/communication-...oject-managers/

Link to the book in which the research was first published in 2006:
https://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Project-Manag...e/dp/0990907414

The point is that the methodology of this research is somewhat questioned. Starting with the communication concept: Any real manager (job of managing multidisciplinary subordinated teams and other partners) communicates all the time, that is, 100% of his productive time is used either to plan, analyse problems and risks, coordinate, allocate resources, monitor, control or report. All of these activities are done by reading, listening, talking to people or writing things. So it is hard to find something that the manager does that is not related to communication.
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Farhad Abdollahyan Managing Director| Cyrus Associados Apoio em Projetos Sao Paulo, Sp, Brazil
Feb 18, 2018 10:13 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Farhad -

Assuming the original source for the statistic was Rita, short of using a Ouija board I doubt there's any way to learn how she came up with it.

If it was me, I'd have had a representative sample of PMs across multiple projects at different stages in their lifecycle across multiple industries report their time against activities over a few weeks and then map those activities to communication & non-communication-related ones. That would likely provide as good an estimate as any for an average...

Kiron
Dear Kiron,

Indeed, Rita mentions this statistics in her best seller manual of PMP Preparatory Course, but the research itself was not done by her.

The original source is in Andy Crowe’s research in his book, "Alpha Project Managers" that estimated that PM’s spend as much as 90% of their time communicating in one way or another so it is not surprising that effective communication makes such a difference to the success of a project. http://www.greenbankltd.com/communication-...oject-managers/

Link to the book in which the research was first published in 2006:
https://www.amazon.com/Alpha-Project-Manag...e/dp/0990907414

The point is that the methodology of this research is somewhat questioned. Starting with the communication concept: Any real manager (job of managing multidisciplinary subordinated teams and other partners) communicates all the time, that is, 100% of his productive time is used either to plan, analyse problems and risks, coordinate, allocate resources, monitor, control or report. All of these activities are done by reading, listening, talking to people or writing things. So it is hard to find something that the manager does that is not related to communication.
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