Project Leadership or Project Management, which is the subset of the other?
Karthik RamamoorthySenior Engineer - Project Controls| Corrosion technology ServicesAbu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
What could be a larger dimension? It's either Leadership or Management! The dynamic Project environment requires Leadership qualities to complete the Project successfully and how can it be imparted to the next generation? Saving Changes...
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Eric SimmsSenior Program ManagerBaltimore, Maryland, United States
I'd say that Project Management is the larger dimension, and Project Leadership is a subset of it. The best way to impart both of these to the next generation is by example, not merely words. Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
You are talking about different things. First of all, inside companies you could find two roles defined: Project Leader and Project Manager. The first one is the first step to go to the second one. If you are talking about to be a leader a project manger does not need to be a leader at all. Unfortunately lot of consulting firms sell that including the PMI has take a role on that but if you search PMI related documentation the concept of leadership has changed. You are a manager, not a leader. As a manager one of the key things you must do is to identify the leader. Saving Changes...
Melissa GottschalkAuthor| The Soft Side of Project ManagementZelienople, Pa, United States
I disagree Sergio. I believe that being a leader is a mindset and in order to be a valuable project manager you must be able to lead your team to success. Part of being a leader is honing your soft skills and understanding people fully. These things are not listed in PMBOK as part of project management duties, but they do surely get you to your end goal more quickly and with more followers who want to join your teams.
Melissa Gottschalk
Author, The Soft Side of Project Management.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Mar 02, 2018 4:00 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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Soft skills must be used indeed. But it does not mean to be a leader. The problem is to define what a leader has to be and mainly asking the organizations what a leader means for them.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Mar 02, 2018 12:50 PM
Replying to Melissa Gottschalk
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I disagree Sergio. I believe that being a leader is a mindset and in order to be a valuable project manager you must be able to lead your team to success. Part of being a leader is honing your soft skills and understanding people fully. These things are not listed in PMBOK as part of project management duties, but they do surely get you to your end goal more quickly and with more followers who want to join your teams.
Melissa Gottschalk
Author, The Soft Side of Project Management.
Soft skills must be used indeed. But it does not mean to be a leader. The problem is to define what a leader has to be and mainly asking the organizations what a leader means for them. Saving Changes...
Melissa GottschalkAuthor| The Soft Side of Project ManagementZelienople, Pa, United States
I agree that a leader is different for each organization. I am not sure though that organization knows what they need when they are asked.
Leadership needs to be provided, even to those who are not sure what they need. It is up to a true leader to see the need and fill it even without others knowing it is happening.
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Mar 02, 2018 4:45 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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If they need something then a problem has to be solved. Needs create a problem situation to be solved. To understand the problem person in charge of that activity must perform elicitation activities to work on perception, desire of the gap between both taking into account the perceived reality and the desire reality. When you ask organizations about leadership you will surprise (at least in my personal experience). Returning to the point, we are project managers. We manage, we do not need to be leaders. Some consulting companies and some people have installed this idea into the market and that jeopardizes the work of people that are performing project management but more of people that are trying to find a new job as project managers. Unfortunatelly leadership is a new buzzword.
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Mar 02, 2018 4:28 PM
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I agree that a leader is different for each organization. I am not sure though that organization knows what they need when they are asked.
Leadership needs to be provided, even to those who are not sure what they need. It is up to a true leader to see the need and fill it even without others knowing it is happening.
If they need something then a problem has to be solved. Needs create a problem situation to be solved. To understand the problem person in charge of that activity must perform elicitation activities to work on perception, desire of the gap between both taking into account the perceived reality and the desire reality. When you ask organizations about leadership you will surprise (at least in my personal experience). Returning to the point, we are project managers. We manage, we do not need to be leaders. Some consulting companies and some people have installed this idea into the market and that jeopardizes the work of people that are performing project management but more of people that are trying to find a new job as project managers. Unfortunatelly leadership is a new buzzword. Saving Changes...
Karthik RamamoorthySenior Engineer - Project Controls| Corrosion technology ServicesAbu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
Hi,
I agree with your statements, but Leadership as understood is an inbuilt quality and how can that be imparted? Saving Changes...
Alok AnadkatSenior Project Manager - Consultant| IBM CanadaMilton, Ontario, Canada
Hi,
I agree to Melissa.
Here is what I understand between the two : Leadership is a direction, management is a tool. Leadership strategic, management is tactical. Both are equally important and none are subset of each other. Both can be learned. No title or position is required to be a leader or a manager.
Leader decide where the herd is moving, manager decide who needs to be at the front , at the back or at the middle. Management do the prioritization, decide the speed, approach, methods etc.
Leadership create a vision - visualize the end result, then listen, prepare and finalize the mission - basically define where to go. And also leadership select set of values. In doing so, it takes contributions from others. Leadership also communicate this to the team.
Management is the one who execute this vision, Mission and values.
One needs to be a leader and manager in its limited role. You can not manage a project without leadership qualities - knowing a big picture, without focusing to the end benefits - outputs. And off course you need management skills to manage the projects - scope, schedule, communication, cost management etc.
Alok
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Mar 03, 2018 6:42 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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The problem here is to understand leadership. Leadership has many flavors. Is not about to create a vision or something like that. For example, you can manage a project but you could not be the leader of a group because the group recognized a person as a leader because her/his technical knowledge. As this example, I can give others including those related to leadership style. I am not saying that being the manager and being the leader is not good or something like that. What I am saying is that I am exhausted to heard and read some people that confuse people in a way where some people think "if I am not a leader I can not be a project manager".
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Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
Mar 03, 2018 3:36 PM
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Hi,
I agree to Melissa.
Here is what I understand between the two : Leadership is a direction, management is a tool. Leadership strategic, management is tactical. Both are equally important and none are subset of each other. Both can be learned. No title or position is required to be a leader or a manager.
Leader decide where the herd is moving, manager decide who needs to be at the front , at the back or at the middle. Management do the prioritization, decide the speed, approach, methods etc.
Leadership create a vision - visualize the end result, then listen, prepare and finalize the mission - basically define where to go. And also leadership select set of values. In doing so, it takes contributions from others. Leadership also communicate this to the team.
Management is the one who execute this vision, Mission and values.
One needs to be a leader and manager in its limited role. You can not manage a project without leadership qualities - knowing a big picture, without focusing to the end benefits - outputs. And off course you need management skills to manage the projects - scope, schedule, communication, cost management etc.
Alok
The problem here is to understand leadership. Leadership has many flavors. Is not about to create a vision or something like that. For example, you can manage a project but you could not be the leader of a group because the group recognized a person as a leader because her/his technical knowledge. As this example, I can give others including those related to leadership style. I am not saying that being the manager and being the leader is not good or something like that. What I am saying is that I am exhausted to heard and read some people that confuse people in a way where some people think "if I am not a leader I can not be a project manager". Saving Changes...
