These are in fact two very different things. Randomness does not equate to fairness. I have just applied for the PMI-ACP exam and have been selected for an audit. To date, I have been audited two times, for two exams. That's a 100% batting average. My issue is not related to the necessity of an audit; in that regard I totally agree. My issue is not with the randomness of the audit; how else to select a section of exam aspirants without exhibiting bias. My issue is however with the fact that some people can get multiple audits and others can get zero audits for several exams. This in my view is the definition of unfair. If PMI "must ensure that practitioners who obtain the certifications have met requirements that reflect the evolving profession" in order to "maintain the integrity of its certifications", then all well and good. But why not alter the algorithm to at least audit someone who has never been audited, rather than audit someone twice, or worse, two for two? How far can "randomness" go? Perhaps audit three out of three exam applications for the same individual, while someone else sits multiple exams with zero audits? With around 1 million PMI certified professionals, what are the statistical odds of getting audited three out of three times? I guess I will find out if I ever brave a third certification! Saving Changes...
Karl StillerEmbedded Software Engineer| NOJA PowerBrisbane, Queensland, Australia
The major headache in the audit process is getting your project experience signed off by your bosses or supervisors. The audit generates the forms split between your various projects which they need to sign, as well as the envelope where each form is enclosed. They need to pass that envelope onto you. You then place all the envelopes from your previous bosses/supervisors along with evidence of your academic education and 25 contact hours of PM education into a bigger envelope which you send to the PMI.
Karl, at least they don't ask for blood samples just yet ;-) For my envelope, I just put in the two references' envelopes (sealed and signed) that came from two countries, along with the printed copy of the training, all inside one bigger Fedex envelope.
The major headache in the audit process is getting your project experience signed off by your bosses or supervisors. The audit generates the forms split between your various projects which they need to sign, as well as the envelope where each form is enclosed. They need to pass that envelope onto you. You then place all the envelopes from your previous bosses/supervisors along with evidence of your academic education and 25 contact hours of PM education into a bigger envelope which you send to the PMI.
Karl, at least they don't ask for blood samples just yet ;-) For my envelope, I just put in the two references' envelopes (sealed and signed) that came from two countries, along with the printed copy of the training, all inside one bigger Fedex envelope. Saving Changes...
An update. So I passed the audit for the PMI-ACP, but because of the audit process time, I can no longer sit the exam at the end of March in my State, as the next available exam date is 1 week later. This is a good example of the consequences of a second audit that I still argue was unfair, particularly since the majority of certified professionals have multiple exams with no audit, and especially in light of the expiring exam, you might have thought I would have been spared an audit. Now I have to learn the whole Agile Practice Guide as it will be used as a reference for the new exam, and there will be no reputable simulation exams that include the practice guide for some time to come. Thanks PMI... Saving Changes...
Hi Sante, finally I got it, here I am
so yeah I guess we will be watching for your third application, looks like once you have been flagged then every time it will happen. is that part of machine learning?
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Mar 19, 2018 1:38 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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nah I don't believe it is flagged, but even if it is, they say it's random so I am going to test that in the third certification. When you have close to a million certified professionals, the odds of one person getting three out of three audits is, well, not a definition of random in my book. Time will tell on this one. It's actually a little exciting and challenging to see what happens.
Hi Sante, finally I got it, here I am
so yeah I guess we will be watching for your third application, looks like once you have been flagged then every time it will happen. is that part of machine learning?
nah I don't believe it is flagged, but even if it is, they say it's random so I am going to test that in the third certification. When you have close to a million certified professionals, the odds of one person getting three out of three audits is, well, not a definition of random in my book. Time will tell on this one. It's actually a little exciting and challenging to see what happens. Saving Changes...
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