If everything was done according the a good Project Management practice, that's wishful thinking.
All project would be having clear benefits. Lot less ressources would be wasted in poor or useless project.
The first thing is just valuable project would be done! That might be subject of discussion. Project finance with some government money would be selected for the true impact on economy.
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1 reply by George Lewis
Mar 19, 2018 10:58 AM
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Vincent - interesting comments; yet, I was more thinking of a higher level, thinking of us (the entire PM community and the PM leaders and PM decision takers) driving a change.
What changes can be done to our sector in order for us to cause an impact in the economy sector in our countries.
Note: This goes far behind completing a seldom project.
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 19, 2018 9:59 AM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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George,
If everything was done according the a good Project Management practice, that's wishful thinking.
All project would be having clear benefits. Lot less ressources would be wasted in poor or useless project.
The first thing is just valuable project would be done! That might be subject of discussion. Project finance with some government money would be selected for the true impact on economy.
Vincent - interesting comments; yet, I was more thinking of a higher level, thinking of us (the entire PM community and the PM leaders and PM decision takers) driving a change.
What changes can be done to our sector in order for us to cause an impact in the economy sector in our countries.
Note: This goes far behind completing a seldom project. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 19, 2018 9:36 AM
Replying to Lenka Pincot
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Hi George! What I meant was this:
In my eyes project management is a tool that helps you to deliver a project in efficient way. You maximize your chances to deliver the required results whatever it is supposed to be.
When it comes to boosting economy I think it’s important to have the right ideas and understanding of the situation of that particular country, opportunities it has, global economics etc. here we come to managing of the portfolio of ideas because you don’t want to have various ideas competing with each other, being counterproductive, you want or have synergies, you want to set the right priorities because resources will be always limited.
My question was if you consider this under project management too or not?
And then once you believe you work with the right set of ideas and you turn them into projects than the project management comes and helps you to implement them.
So if you would give me just set of skilled project managers and methodology I don’t believe it would be enough. It would be definitely needed for the implementation but are those project managers supposed to come with the right ideas? You rather need experts to bring the ideas. So then project management is a tool for me to help boosting the economy but not the primary driver who cause the boost.
Lenka - I do understand.
I just feel that at a higher level, there should be something our sector (PM) could do to cause a major impact in our society economy.
But I do understand what you say.
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1 reply by Lenka Pincot
Mar 19, 2018 1:12 PM
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Hi George, let’s then look at the higher level. Strategic portfolio management - Programme and Project Management is about ‘doing things right’; Portfolio Management is about ‘doing the right things’. Successful organisations clearly need both.
I’m still not sure what are you looking for. Do you have any ideas in mind how can PM sector drive economy mix boost? And what all functions do you consider to be part of PM sector. Do you want PM to be more considered on that strategic level? In other words do you expect PM sector to make the decisions about which initiatives should take place because I think that’s the only way how you can truly boost economy - by having the skills to make the right decisions about what changes should take place.
If this is what you’re looking for than you will need to define the lines between strategic decision making and execution. In general I don’t think it’s good to have both under the same body for many many reasons, mostly to avoid conflict of interests. In my eyes PM is more about the execution.
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 18, 2018 11:16 AM
Replying to MANDA SATSHISHINGA
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Yes, sure!
In case of my country (Angola), is through education and communication.
1. I can start at school, then universities because is where the opinion will be made later.
2. Making sure that public opinion is aware that growth can be achieve with best practices in public sector.
3. To Politicians, by informing what they could gain by enforcing the best project management practices and where to find these practices and how to measure the benefits.
Manda - this is the direction I wanted with the discussion. I do think there is a lot that can be done, but I'm not sure how and where.
The PM sector has a great potential, but it has been asleep in terms of causing a greater impact.
Leaders are most focus on PM standards (which are good, very good) but project management has been around for a while and it too common people misunderstanding the concept.
Are consolidated enough to drive a bigger change in economy? What are we missing? Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 18, 2018 11:07 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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George -
Beyond project delivery, I'd hope that a good PM will influence sponsors and other funding authorities to make the right investments which will further the country's economy. PMs will rarely be in a portfolio decision making authority role but they can certainly develop strong relationships with portfolio decision makers to increase the likelihood of worthwhile spend.
Kiron
Kiron - I agree with you, but the question is at a higher level (decision takers) not just only the PM role but the PM sector in general (as PMs we are all part of this sector). Saving Changes...
Lenka PincotChief of Staff to the CEO| Project Management InstituteParis, France
Mar 19, 2018 11:00 AM
Replying to George Lewis
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Lenka - I do understand.
I just feel that at a higher level, there should be something our sector (PM) could do to cause a major impact in our society economy.
But I do understand what you say.
Hi George, let’s then look at the higher level. Strategic portfolio management - Programme and Project Management is about ‘doing things right’; Portfolio Management is about ‘doing the right things’. Successful organisations clearly need both.
I’m still not sure what are you looking for. Do you have any ideas in mind how can PM sector drive economy mix boost? And what all functions do you consider to be part of PM sector. Do you want PM to be more considered on that strategic level? In other words do you expect PM sector to make the decisions about which initiatives should take place because I think that’s the only way how you can truly boost economy - by having the skills to make the right decisions about what changes should take place.
If this is what you’re looking for than you will need to define the lines between strategic decision making and execution. In general I don’t think it’s good to have both under the same body for many many reasons, mostly to avoid conflict of interests. In my eyes PM is more about the execution. Saving Changes...
Lenka PincotChief of Staff to the CEO| Project Management InstituteParis, France
George, just to speak from my professional experience. In fact I’ve never a project manager by a title. But I could not do any of my jobs without being a skilled project manager. My tasks were always about driving and delivering a change to improve the business. I had to develop great understanding of the business I was part of, be able to understand the stakeholders and the senior executives and to transform their needs and visions into specific goals and projects. And then I oversaw the execution. I always had a lot of power to drive the change and influence things but where was the power coming from? I believe it was from the ability to be the one who contributes to forming the vision. The execution itself was helping me too but mostly in creating the trust that I can ensure that the vision becomes reality. This is I think the core contribution of a good and high quality project management. The trust needed to be appointed to execute the change and then do it right. But if you want to drive the change you must vision it. And for that I’m really not sure that being a project manager is enough. Or maybe it is and this is the concept you want to change?
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1 reply by George Lewis
Mar 19, 2018 1:54 PM
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Lenka - interesting comments. I do agree with you! And yes, maybe been a project manager is not enough.
But regarding your question about my general idea: what if our PM leaders, PMI Board, PM Gurus and us (all) that supports project management sector, would seek enforce government or entities to use project management standards, this will definitely have these political organizations going crazy, because they'll have to do the work right and abide by scope, cost, time, and so on..
Have anyone seen project management standards been imposed by country leaders? I can imagine the answer, and this can also reflects why project management isn't cause the effects it could. I'm talking about a specific country but a wider impact.
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George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
Mar 19, 2018 1:26 PM
Replying to Lenka Pincot
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George, just to speak from my professional experience. In fact I’ve never a project manager by a title. But I could not do any of my jobs without being a skilled project manager. My tasks were always about driving and delivering a change to improve the business. I had to develop great understanding of the business I was part of, be able to understand the stakeholders and the senior executives and to transform their needs and visions into specific goals and projects. And then I oversaw the execution. I always had a lot of power to drive the change and influence things but where was the power coming from? I believe it was from the ability to be the one who contributes to forming the vision. The execution itself was helping me too but mostly in creating the trust that I can ensure that the vision becomes reality. This is I think the core contribution of a good and high quality project management. The trust needed to be appointed to execute the change and then do it right. But if you want to drive the change you must vision it. And for that I’m really not sure that being a project manager is enough. Or maybe it is and this is the concept you want to change?
Lenka - interesting comments. I do agree with you! And yes, maybe been a project manager is not enough.
But regarding your question about my general idea: what if our PM leaders, PMI Board, PM Gurus and us (all) that supports project management sector, would seek enforce government or entities to use project management standards, this will definitely have these political organizations going crazy, because they'll have to do the work right and abide by scope, cost, time, and so on..
Have anyone seen project management standards been imposed by country leaders? I can imagine the answer, and this can also reflects why project management isn't cause the effects it could. I'm talking about a specific country but a wider impact. Saving Changes...
Lenka PincotChief of Staff to the CEO| Project Management InstituteParis, France
Frankly speaking I don’t really see PM sector equipped with a power to push from the top on governments to adopt PM standards. So then the other way is to influence and deliver the chance from the bottom. Then we can talk about raising awareness and making PM framework and moth0dlogy knowledge accessible for those who work on projects that may actually impact economy.
Very specifics steps may be publishing success stories about projects from public sector that went great while showing how the PM standards contributed to their success. Or providing webinars or other forms of trainings that would acknowledge differences and specific challenges in public sector and provide advice specific to that environment. Or providing discounts on PM certifications for employees in public sector functions.
Such influencing is a long run without guarantee of success but still worth doing.
But before starting anything it’s always good to gather data, to scale the current issue and to verify that the hypothesis that to improve the projects is about imposing project management standards is right. I’ve mostly seen that reasons for project failures were in poor scope definitions and low priority or key stakeholder engagement. Surely PM standards may help here. But not alone. When there’s no fire there is no need for change. Saving Changes...
Elizeu AntonioManager for Network Operations| MSTelcomLuanda, Angola
Gerorge -
The PM sector in the modern world is a condition for the economic, political and social development of any country. It represents patterns of interaction between individuals or groups and could be present in all contexts of social life associated with productivity. Boost our countries economy (increase economic development) is a integrated process of social transformation that may have in organizations or, particularly, in the PM sector one of its main tools. Saving Changes...