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Are there any PMBOK 6 processes we can do without, or that you rarely use?

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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
If I had to pick one, I would say 9.4 Develop Team on occasion is not necessary. The reason is that some teams are already mature and basically only need to be managed moreso than developed. The output of 9.4 Develop Team which is "Team performance assessment" could be performed during 9.5 Manage Team in the above context.
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Sante -

Agreed, if you are with a long-lived team which has just moved from one project to the next, that process might be minimal.

As with everything else in the PMBOK Guide, process utilization will scale based on the needs of the project. For example, many of the projects I worked on earlier in my career were software development projects using internal staff only and hence there was no need for the full Procurement Management knowledge area!

Of course, in some companies, the lack of performing a given process might actually be reflective of low organizational PM maturity - I've seen my fair share of companies whose quality management practices extend solely to QC...

Kiron
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Mar 19, 2018 7:02 AM
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Yes, other than an initial make or buy analysis in certain cases, some projects would need little if any of the procurement management knowledge area.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mar 19, 2018 6:40 AM
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Sante -

Agreed, if you are with a long-lived team which has just moved from one project to the next, that process might be minimal.

As with everything else in the PMBOK Guide, process utilization will scale based on the needs of the project. For example, many of the projects I worked on earlier in my career were software development projects using internal staff only and hence there was no need for the full Procurement Management knowledge area!

Of course, in some companies, the lack of performing a given process might actually be reflective of low organizational PM maturity - I've seen my fair share of companies whose quality management practices extend solely to QC...

Kiron
Yes, other than an initial make or buy analysis in certain cases, some projects would need little if any of the procurement management knowledge area.
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Kevin Drake Perth, Western Australia, Australia
Hi Sante, I agree with you as well, but there was one time only where I used it and in details,
I was given a very inexperienced team and that all that the company had. I had to develop the team from scratch with no other choice.
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Mar 19, 2018 9:13 AM
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Kevin, sure there are many times when we certainly need to develop the team.
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mar 19, 2018 8:36 AM
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Hi Sante, I agree with you as well, but there was one time only where I used it and in details,
I was given a very inexperienced team and that all that the company had. I had to develop the team from scratch with no other choice.
Kevin, sure there are many times when we certainly need to develop the team.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Sante,

I have yet to read PMBOK 6, I keep using v5 since all my annotations are there and it can be put in the v6 PDF (lock) for PMI member!

I would agree that Develop team is important, but in many case the team is moving from one project to the next.
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Mar 19, 2018 9:56 AM
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Ah ok Vincent. Well the same questions can apply to version 5 also :-)
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Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD Senior Project Manager| Infosys Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Mar 19, 2018 9:53 AM
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Sante,

I have yet to read PMBOK 6, I keep using v5 since all my annotations are there and it can be put in the v6 PDF (lock) for PMI member!

I would agree that Develop team is important, but in many case the team is moving from one project to the next.
Ah ok Vincent. Well the same questions can apply to version 5 also :-)
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Delrose Brown Vice President - Business Leader - Product Delivery| Mastercard Canada Brampton, Ontario, Canada
To me, the 6 Process Groups are all useful. Of the 47 processes, I believe Manage Communication & Manage Stakeholder Engagement should be combined. In fact, the knowledge areas for Stakeholder and Communications should be combined :-)
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2 replies by Dinah Young and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Mar 19, 2018 2:17 PM
Dinah Young
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I agree. Those two areas tripped me up a few times. They overlap so much that it may be better to combine them.
Mar 19, 2018 10:38 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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That's an interesting thought Delrose.
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Dinah Young Project Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William County Springfield, Va, United States
Mar 19, 2018 12:24 PM
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To me, the 6 Process Groups are all useful. Of the 47 processes, I believe Manage Communication & Manage Stakeholder Engagement should be combined. In fact, the knowledge areas for Stakeholder and Communications should be combined :-)
I agree. Those two areas tripped me up a few times. They overlap so much that it may be better to combine them.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Mar 19, 2018 2:28 PM
Kiron Bondale
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When they were combined (PMBOK 4th edition and before), stakeholder management was somewhat marginalized...

Kiron
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Mar 19, 2018 2:17 PM
Replying to Dinah Young
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I agree. Those two areas tripped me up a few times. They overlap so much that it may be better to combine them.
When they were combined (PMBOK 4th edition and before), stakeholder management was somewhat marginalized...

Kiron
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1 reply by Delrose Brown
Mar 19, 2018 10:24 PM
Delrose Brown
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Heard that they are being combined in 6th edition. I need to check that out.....That will work for me.
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Delrose Brown Vice President - Business Leader - Product Delivery| Mastercard Canada Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Mar 19, 2018 2:28 PM
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When they were combined (PMBOK 4th edition and before), stakeholder management was somewhat marginalized...

Kiron
Heard that they are being combined in 6th edition. I need to check that out.....That will work for me.
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