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Are Psychometric tests and MBTI required for Project Managers?

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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
If you have undergone a Psychometric tests with verbal and mechanical reasoning or Myers-Briggs Type Indicator assessment or if you had any other evaluation tests then please share your experience.
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Karan Shah Bangalore, Karnataka, India
Apr 01, 2018 10:03 AM
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Riyadh -

I've gone through a whole bunch of these including MBTI, Color Wheel and so on.

If you take their "findings" with a grain of salt, you won't be misled. It's when folks follow them blindly that they encounter the same issues as those who buy into their horoscope...

Kiron
I strongly concur with Kiron's views.

I have had widely varying results on the MBTI when taken at different times of the year - in multiple years. Where results of the MBTI are concerned, I think I must have covered all the combinations available. This suggests that either the structure of the test does not conform to adequate accuracy controls or that the parameters being tested change from day to day (thereby nullifying the need to be tested).

Additionally, the parameters being tested are often enclosed to the scope of the test. Even if accurate, at most it would present only partial facets of ones personality. The makeup of our psychology and our being human is much deeper, much more varied, much richer than anything such tests can mock up.

There is also the fact that one instance of the test is aimed at a wide variety of the population -- if you put a bunch of people in a room, you wouldn't even find a pair of shoes that fits everyone! How then is a one-size-fits-all test supposed to gauge their psychology accurately?

I personally have found rigourous self-analysis a much more robust process on understanding oneself. That, and constantly asking for feedback from the people around me. I will admit, though, that psychometric tests are good for ego-stroking (until the next test brings about a completely different result).
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Apr 06, 2018 12:24 AM
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I agree and wonder why some companies they think is the required scale to apply in interviews.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Apr 05, 2018 11:18 PM
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I strongly concur with Kiron's views.

I have had widely varying results on the MBTI when taken at different times of the year - in multiple years. Where results of the MBTI are concerned, I think I must have covered all the combinations available. This suggests that either the structure of the test does not conform to adequate accuracy controls or that the parameters being tested change from day to day (thereby nullifying the need to be tested).

Additionally, the parameters being tested are often enclosed to the scope of the test. Even if accurate, at most it would present only partial facets of ones personality. The makeup of our psychology and our being human is much deeper, much more varied, much richer than anything such tests can mock up.

There is also the fact that one instance of the test is aimed at a wide variety of the population -- if you put a bunch of people in a room, you wouldn't even find a pair of shoes that fits everyone! How then is a one-size-fits-all test supposed to gauge their psychology accurately?

I personally have found rigourous self-analysis a much more robust process on understanding oneself. That, and constantly asking for feedback from the people around me. I will admit, though, that psychometric tests are good for ego-stroking (until the next test brings about a completely different result).
I agree and wonder why some companies they think is the required scale to apply in interviews.
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Demetrius Williams Atlanta, Ga, United States
Riyadh, the "tests" was supposed to help the team work and understand each other better. I think it was helpful; but should be taken with a "grain of salt".
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Apr 08, 2018 9:14 PM
Riyadh Salih
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Demetrius, this has nothing to do with the team, this is a kind of test they conduct when you apply for a job so my question was is it really required to test PM with this kind of test, doesn't holding PMP would be enough to make you distinguished, I know many good managers in the field but they failed these tests, does it really mean that they are not good candidate for the job.
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Riyadh,

Those test can be interesting and give interesting information. There is situation where I have see these test use to push out great candidates.

Like previous comment it must be use in with caution and a grain of salt.
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Apr 08, 2018 9:18 PM
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Vincent you're absolutely right these kind of test should not be a good measure for managerial jobs and passing these tests doesn't guarantee you get the best manager. I don't see much value in these tests.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Apr 08, 2018 8:31 PM
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Riyadh, the "tests" was supposed to help the team work and understand each other better. I think it was helpful; but should be taken with a "grain of salt".
Demetrius, this has nothing to do with the team, this is a kind of test they conduct when you apply for a job so my question was is it really required to test PM with this kind of test, doesn't holding PMP would be enough to make you distinguished, I know many good managers in the field but they failed these tests, does it really mean that they are not good candidate for the job.
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Riyadh Salih Saskatchewan, Canada
Apr 08, 2018 8:52 PM
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Riyadh,

Those test can be interesting and give interesting information. There is situation where I have see these test use to push out great candidates.

Like previous comment it must be use in with caution and a grain of salt.
Vincent you're absolutely right these kind of test should not be a good measure for managerial jobs and passing these tests doesn't guarantee you get the best manager. I don't see much value in these tests.
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Xavier clerfeuille Program Manager| OHM Lib Bures Sur Yvette, France
Hello

I am using MBTI for 2009 when I became certified in MBTI Level 1 and 2.

I launch it usually from kick off to identify how each member of the team "works" and facilitate with a fun team building.

To day, as certified coach, I am working on the cognitive bias of a PM / team member, due to its Type ...

Feel free to contact me if needed.
èLinked In : Xavier Clerfeuille)
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
The value of these tests is greatly enhanced by repeating them and noticing the changes. Over time, you will notice that you tend to be less extreme in your personal characteristics or types.
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Kimberly Chavez Platform Program Manager, Integration| Brightspeed Overland Park, Ks, United States
I was classified as INTJ. It helped me begin working on parts of my management style that needed attention to move forward in my career. Very useful tool. It's worth noting, in my experience, I've taken the test several times over the years and its always come back INTJ. On a humorous side note, I was just told that only an INTJ would take the test several times over the years to prove nothings changed. :P
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