Not saying I would, but if everyone did that, we would have zero or very low unemployment. It could be a kind of internship to build someones skills or at least further their experience, and then they could move on when another job presented itself. This would be timeboxed for say 3-6 months and could be done once a decade and still have enough employees to give every job seeker a shot. For those that wouldn't want to ultimately lose the money, perhaps a deal could be made that once they get a job, they give 10% or the equivalent back to you. Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
Apr 06, 2018 6:31 PM
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That's great Andrew and some people do this and it is valuable and worthwhile. As with the previous post, I think taxes doesn't really pay into it. Yes they can be used for some training programs, but we as taxpayers have no control over that, whereas we have direct control over how this 10%$ would be used. Donations is certainly a good thing, but like taxes we have very little control how it is used. Granted some of things you mentioned does have a similar outcome as my suggestion. Just a disclaimer, I am not advocating this practice, but I am interested to know how people respond and why :-)
The services that went were funded by taxes provided the programs to get me out of unemployment and allow me to reinvent my career. Our donations are direct donations like time, delivering clothes, and delivering unused items.
The only way I can afford to give away additional money is if there is savings elsewhere. What is important is funding our children's college funding. If I take 10% of my salary, its going to my kids tuition fund :)
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 07, 2018 5:57 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Granted Andrew, of course such a program wouldn't be for everyone and could only ever work if it was voluntary.
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John DuncanRetired| RetiredLebanon, Tn, United States
A couple of thoughts...
One, the person would have to meet some qualifications. And by that, I don't mean just education, but more subjective. For example, I wouldn't want to give up 10% of my salary to "support" someone, unless they were going to put in the effort to learn and to deliver.
Second, salary/money, to some degree, is just time/energy converted to another form. We can also give time/energy directly, through mentoring, coaching, training, providing opportunities, etc. Then it's up to the other person to convert their time/energy into money... My contribution could be to help them get to a point where they can do that, through any of a variety of means.
There's a quote that appears at the bottom of some of the pages here. It is something along the lines of "the person you give something to for free, will be the one who has the most complaints about it".
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2 replies by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD and Swapnil Bingewar
Apr 07, 2018 6:03 PM
Swapnil Bingewar
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I agree with John Duncan
Apr 07, 2018 6:15 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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John certainly there would need to be KPI's and metrics under a framework to ensure the quality of the process.
Good Thought, I would think to do that..! If this is done in a structured way & we get something equivalent back, not in terms of money or material but at least RESPECT.
The services that went were funded by taxes provided the programs to get me out of unemployment and allow me to reinvent my career. Our donations are direct donations like time, delivering clothes, and delivering unused items.
The only way I can afford to give away additional money is if there is savings elsewhere. What is important is funding our children's college funding. If I take 10% of my salary, its going to my kids tuition fund :)
Granted Andrew, of course such a program wouldn't be for everyone and could only ever work if it was voluntary. Saving Changes...
One, the person would have to meet some qualifications. And by that, I don't mean just education, but more subjective. For example, I wouldn't want to give up 10% of my salary to "support" someone, unless they were going to put in the effort to learn and to deliver.
Second, salary/money, to some degree, is just time/energy converted to another form. We can also give time/energy directly, through mentoring, coaching, training, providing opportunities, etc. Then it's up to the other person to convert their time/energy into money... My contribution could be to help them get to a point where they can do that, through any of a variety of means.
There's a quote that appears at the bottom of some of the pages here. It is something along the lines of "the person you give something to for free, will be the one who has the most complaints about it".
One, the person would have to meet some qualifications. And by that, I don't mean just education, but more subjective. For example, I wouldn't want to give up 10% of my salary to "support" someone, unless they were going to put in the effort to learn and to deliver.
Second, salary/money, to some degree, is just time/energy converted to another form. We can also give time/energy directly, through mentoring, coaching, training, providing opportunities, etc. Then it's up to the other person to convert their time/energy into money... My contribution could be to help them get to a point where they can do that, through any of a variety of means.
There's a quote that appears at the bottom of some of the pages here. It is something along the lines of "the person you give something to for free, will be the one who has the most complaints about it".
John certainly there would need to be KPI's and metrics under a framework to ensure the quality of the process. Saving Changes...
Good Thought, I would think to do that..! If this is done in a structured way & we get something equivalent back, not in terms of money or material but at least RESPECT.
Nice thought Swapnil. Saving Changes...
George LewisProgram/Project Manager| DXC Technology CompanyHeredia, Costa Rica
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ERIK MARTELL ESCOBEDOBI Consultant| Private ContractorDistrito Federal, Distrito Federal, Mexico
Please Sante explain the reasoning behind this idea, specially for regions or circumnstances where even having a 10% raise in salary is very difficult.
Also I see how such a thing could easily be abused by unethical managers.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 09, 2018 6:23 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Hi Erik, well if such as idea were to be carried out, it would be voluntary to take the 10%, and it would be under certain conditions. Unethical managers could take advantage of cheaper labor, but there should be a framework in place that helps to prevent this. The reasoning or rationale is very simply: to reduce unemployment to low or zero figures, while improving/sharing the skills and knowledge within the workforce.
Please Sante explain the reasoning behind this idea, specially for regions or circumnstances where even having a 10% raise in salary is very difficult.
Also I see how such a thing could easily be abused by unethical managers.
Hi Erik, well if such as idea were to be carried out, it would be voluntary to take the 10%, and it would be under certain conditions. Unethical managers could take advantage of cheaper labor, but there should be a framework in place that helps to prevent this. The reasoning or rationale is very simply: to reduce unemployment to low or zero figures, while improving/sharing the skills and knowledge within the workforce.
