Scrum is the most popular framework for delivering Agile projects. Kanban is perhaps the most flexible. Should PMI create certifications for these two very popular frameworks? Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
I agree with Kiron.
I believe PMI did the right thing by introducing ACP and maybe they do not need to introduce any more certifications like Scrum or Kanban because there are so many competing bodies for the same credential and people will take the most feasible route in most cases.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 10, 2018 8:06 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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They definitely did the right thing about the ACP.
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Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
Apr 10, 2018 3:42 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Sante, do not come anywhere near the SP - Don't even mention it. I've been studying for quite a while now for the exam :-)
After studying the SP & RMP, I honestly discovered how much value there is behind those certifictions. They are really solid.
Ha Ha... I was waiting for you to jump in Rami.
I did look at the number of people who have the PgMP and PfMP
On this site only 1,294 have the PgMP
And only 391 have the PfMP
So I can see where you say that they may not be cost-effective.
The CAPM has always confused me. If it is basically the same test as the PMP, why isn't there a way to just do an "upgrade" when you get the required experience.
The PMI-SP, PMI-PBA, etc are fine by me.
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2 replies by Rami Kaibni and Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 10, 2018 4:42 PM
Rami Kaibni
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LOL This is a red line liek the S-Curve :D
Yes, PgMP & PfMP are very expensive.
Apr 10, 2018 8:12 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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lol yeah my comment was mainly to pull Rami in ;-)
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Michael DelaneyPartner| Delaney Management LLCWest Chester, Pa, United States
I think they have enough certifications. I also think they provide sufficient access to resources where you can learn these practices. Saving Changes...
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 10, 2018 3:49 PM
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Ha Ha... I was waiting for you to jump in Rami.
I did look at the number of people who have the PgMP and PfMP
On this site only 1,294 have the PgMP
And only 391 have the PfMP
So I can see where you say that they may not be cost-effective.
The CAPM has always confused me. If it is basically the same test as the PMP, why isn't there a way to just do an "upgrade" when you get the required experience.
The PMI-SP, PMI-PBA, etc are fine by me.
LOL This is a red line liek the S-Curve :D
Yes, PgMP & PfMP are very expensive. Saving Changes...
I believe PMI did the right thing by introducing ACP and maybe they do not need to introduce any more certifications like Scrum or Kanban because there are so many competing bodies for the same credential and people will take the most feasible route in most cases.
They definitely did the right thing about the ACP. Saving Changes...
Sante, do not come anywhere near the SP - Don't even mention it. I've been studying for quite a while now for the exam :-)
After studying the SP & RMP, I honestly discovered how much value there is behind those certifictions. They are really solid.
lol Rami, except you, you can be the last SP before they cut it hehe. Nah they will keep both of course because there is so much scheduling around. And the RMP in my view is one of the most valuable certifications, and I didn't have it (yet) ;-)
I did look at the number of people who have the PgMP and PfMP
On this site only 1,294 have the PgMP
And only 391 have the PfMP
So I can see where you say that they may not be cost-effective.
The CAPM has always confused me. If it is basically the same test as the PMP, why isn't there a way to just do an "upgrade" when you get the required experience.
The PMI-SP, PMI-PBA, etc are fine by me.
lol yeah my comment was mainly to pull Rami in ;-)
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 10, 2018 11:30 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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The CAPM and the PMI-SP are certainly two viable candidates, but I might even extend it to some of their "higher end" credentials like the PgMP and PfMP...
My perception is that a credential is worth maintaining if:
1. It provides a steady stream of revenue to PMI which more than covers the costs of maintenance
2. It is recognized in the job market, referenced in job postings and sought by hiring managers and recruiters
If it doesn't meet at least one of those two criteria, it's not worth launching or maintaining...
Kiron
Kiron, take it easy on the SP side :D
I am currently studying for the SP and to be honest, I really think it is a great certification to pursue for so many different reasons esepially if you work in project controls like we do. For example, in the gulf region, it is highly reputable and required.
The issue with this and why I believe you find lower number of certified candidates is because they have a solid competition which is the PSP. I know a lot of people PSP Certified.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Apr 11, 2018 6:40 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Good call, Rami - my exposure is in North America and I've never seen the SP referenced here so good to know it's in demand in other parts of the world!
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Apr 10, 2018 8:08 PM
Replying to Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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lol Rami, except you, you can be the last SP before they cut it hehe. Nah they will keep both of course because there is so much scheduling around. And the RMP in my view is one of the most valuable certifications, and I didn't have it (yet) ;-)
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