Project Management

Please login or join to subscribe to this thread

What is the Difference between Management and Leadership?

linkedin twitter facebook  
avatar
SHADAV MOHAMMAD ANSARI PMO| ITC INFOTECH INDIA PVT. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
What is the Difference between Management and Leadership?
Sort By:
< 1 2 3 >
avatar
John Duncan Retired| Retired Lebanon, Tn, United States
Another angle on Leaders and Managers, is Visionaries and Tacticians.

I've always felt that a large organization works best when there are alternating layers of visionaries and tacticians. If visionaries report to visionaries, it's difficult to achieve results. If tacticians report to tacticians, it's easy to get stuck in a rut, doing the same thing and never growing.

Many people operating in a tactician layer, can flex and act as a Leader or a Manager as the situation requires.

People who are visionaries, find it difficult to act as a Manager, and tend to gravitate toward visionary roles.

Some people are very management oriented, and find it moderately difficult to act as a Leader, and very difficult to act as a visionary.

All have a place, but leadership techniques excel in nearly all situations.
avatar
John Duncan Retired| Retired Lebanon, Tn, United States
Apr 12, 2018 7:42 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
...
You can find different definitions according to different schools or lines of thinking but the most agreed is "The organization and coordination of the activities of a business in order to achieve defined objectives.". The same you will find about leadership but here comes the mostly agreed "The activity of leading a group of people or an organization or the ability to do this.". When I wrote "most agreed" is because I worked on research and I am head professor on this field inside some posgraduate and doctorate courses in some Universities, but not matter that is could be a matter of debate. At the end, the important things is: if you are performing as project manager you do not need to be a leader. You must be a manager. You must have the ability to detect a leader inside your group and to manage her/him. Is the same you can find when you practice some sports like futbol (football) and others (I name futbol because in Argentina we practice it from 5 years old up to the day we almost died)
Sergio, I like this quote from you: "You must have the ability to detect a leader inside your group and to manage her/him."

This is similar to the concept "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room". (or you have assembled the wrong team...)
...
2 replies by Christopher McLean and Sergio Luis Conte
Apr 12, 2018 12:23 PM
Christopher McLean
...
Can't help this one, but what if there are no other rooms?

Yes I am being a bit tongue in cheek.
Apr 12, 2018 3:49 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
...
Good to read @John. I am "fighting" with the message "if you are not a leader then you can not perform project management". That is totally false. Unfortunately some people and organizations that make business around selling courses and consulting about leadership trying to install it into the market from years. Because of that, some organizations are loosing people that could be project managers. That is because I sustain that take a look to sports and mainly to practice them at any level could help a lot.
avatar
Christopher McLean Program Manager| Traffic & Parking Control Co., Inc. Milwaukee, Wi, United States
Apr 12, 2018 12:17 PM
Replying to John Duncan
...
Sergio, I like this quote from you: "You must have the ability to detect a leader inside your group and to manage her/him."

This is similar to the concept "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room". (or you have assembled the wrong team...)
Can't help this one, but what if there are no other rooms?

Yes I am being a bit tongue in cheek.
...
1 reply by John Duncan
Apr 12, 2018 12:28 PM
John Duncan
...
Good point...

Sometimes you have to dance with the one you brought, "run what ya brung", etc. :-)

But then it's still on you to grow some or all the individuals on the team where possible, for "next time". And/or add members where possible.
avatar
John Duncan Retired| Retired Lebanon, Tn, United States
Apr 12, 2018 12:23 PM
Replying to Christopher McLean
...
Can't help this one, but what if there are no other rooms?

Yes I am being a bit tongue in cheek.
Good point...

Sometimes you have to dance with the one you brought, "run what ya brung", etc. :-)

But then it's still on you to grow some or all the individuals on the team where possible, for "next time". And/or add members where possible.
...
1 reply by Christopher McLean
Apr 12, 2018 4:00 PM
Christopher McLean
...
I agree. But you also need the buy in from the management to be able to do that. First you have to train them how to think and process (no not gundam (spelling?) style) 'Project Style.' At the same time as you said, mentor and help those who are in the room with you succeed, so it is easier the next go round.

I know that I will sound most likely sound like a jerk; I often feel like I am in a room with people that I need to 'prop up.' Very few people have I had a major "wait a minute, wow" moment with. I like when that happens as it is challenging me to grow as well. Thus I am glad I finally joined this community, I see a lot of intelligence and wisdom. Then again, maybe I am stuck in a rut with the same people so I see my biased opinions, but I seriously doubt it. (Yes I have some ego coming out, but what PM doesn't? Especially according to a BA, LOL.) - Yes I am attempting humor.
avatar
Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Apr 12, 2018 12:17 PM
Replying to John Duncan
...
Sergio, I like this quote from you: "You must have the ability to detect a leader inside your group and to manage her/him."

This is similar to the concept "if you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong room". (or you have assembled the wrong team...)
Good to read @John. I am "fighting" with the message "if you are not a leader then you can not perform project management". That is totally false. Unfortunately some people and organizations that make business around selling courses and consulting about leadership trying to install it into the market from years. Because of that, some organizations are loosing people that could be project managers. That is because I sustain that take a look to sports and mainly to practice them at any level could help a lot.
...
1 reply by John Duncan
Apr 12, 2018 5:03 PM
John Duncan
...
I am very much on-board with delegating. :-)

There are things I do well, and things I don't do as well, and I am more than happy to let others take on as much as they are willing (and able) to do. And then manage that appropriately.
avatar
Christopher McLean Program Manager| Traffic & Parking Control Co., Inc. Milwaukee, Wi, United States
Apr 12, 2018 12:28 PM
Replying to John Duncan
...
Good point...

Sometimes you have to dance with the one you brought, "run what ya brung", etc. :-)

But then it's still on you to grow some or all the individuals on the team where possible, for "next time". And/or add members where possible.
I agree. But you also need the buy in from the management to be able to do that. First you have to train them how to think and process (no not gundam (spelling?) style) 'Project Style.' At the same time as you said, mentor and help those who are in the room with you succeed, so it is easier the next go round.

I know that I will sound most likely sound like a jerk; I often feel like I am in a room with people that I need to 'prop up.' Very few people have I had a major "wait a minute, wow" moment with. I like when that happens as it is challenging me to grow as well. Thus I am glad I finally joined this community, I see a lot of intelligence and wisdom. Then again, maybe I am stuck in a rut with the same people so I see my biased opinions, but I seriously doubt it. (Yes I have some ego coming out, but what PM doesn't? Especially according to a BA, LOL.) - Yes I am attempting humor.
...
1 reply by John Duncan
Apr 12, 2018 4:52 PM
John Duncan
...
It happens sometimes, that you seem to be the only one that "gets it". Makes it difficult.

Helping them see "what's in it for them" can help some. Sometimes you have to focus on the one receptive one in the group. And hopefully slowly turn the tide. And maybe swap out some team members here and there along the way. Easier to do when you are established, and if you can make a case that makes business sense and doesn't cause any political fallout.

Gangnam Style - wow that's 6 years ago already... :-)
avatar
John Duncan Retired| Retired Lebanon, Tn, United States
Apr 12, 2018 4:00 PM
Replying to Christopher McLean
...
I agree. But you also need the buy in from the management to be able to do that. First you have to train them how to think and process (no not gundam (spelling?) style) 'Project Style.' At the same time as you said, mentor and help those who are in the room with you succeed, so it is easier the next go round.

I know that I will sound most likely sound like a jerk; I often feel like I am in a room with people that I need to 'prop up.' Very few people have I had a major "wait a minute, wow" moment with. I like when that happens as it is challenging me to grow as well. Thus I am glad I finally joined this community, I see a lot of intelligence and wisdom. Then again, maybe I am stuck in a rut with the same people so I see my biased opinions, but I seriously doubt it. (Yes I have some ego coming out, but what PM doesn't? Especially according to a BA, LOL.) - Yes I am attempting humor.
It happens sometimes, that you seem to be the only one that "gets it". Makes it difficult.

Helping them see "what's in it for them" can help some. Sometimes you have to focus on the one receptive one in the group. And hopefully slowly turn the tide. And maybe swap out some team members here and there along the way. Easier to do when you are established, and if you can make a case that makes business sense and doesn't cause any political fallout.

Gangnam Style - wow that's 6 years ago already... :-)
avatar
John Duncan Retired| Retired Lebanon, Tn, United States
Apr 12, 2018 3:49 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
...
Good to read @John. I am "fighting" with the message "if you are not a leader then you can not perform project management". That is totally false. Unfortunately some people and organizations that make business around selling courses and consulting about leadership trying to install it into the market from years. Because of that, some organizations are loosing people that could be project managers. That is because I sustain that take a look to sports and mainly to practice them at any level could help a lot.
I am very much on-board with delegating. :-)

There are things I do well, and things I don't do as well, and I am more than happy to let others take on as much as they are willing (and able) to do. And then manage that appropriately.
avatar
SHADAV MOHAMMAD ANSARI PMO| ITC INFOTECH INDIA PVT. Ltd. New Delhi, Delhi, India
Thanks to all of you ..
avatar
Tamer Zeyad Sadiq Assistant Cost Manager| Turner & Townsend Riyadh, Ar Riyad, Saudi Arabia
The leadership is a interpersonal skills for PM to manage project team like making the tasks and goals and give to team to follow these tasks, direct the project,...etc. There are a lot of styles of leadership to PM!!
< 1 2 3 >

Please login or join to reply

Content ID:
ADVERTISEMENTS

"Work is what you do for others . . . art is what you do for yourself."

- Stephen Sondheim

ADVERTISEMENT

Sponsors