They do with doctors, builders, accountants, financial traders, lawyers and the list goes on. There are 100's of professions that are government regulated. Will project management go the same way? Saving Changes...
Sante, yes perhaps a license. I have mixed feelings on that. Licenses are more expensive to gain and maintain (although PMP isn't cheap), and there are more restrictions and consequences.
In Texas (and most or all other states) you cannot legally call yourself an 'engineer' or offer engineering services without a P.E. license. It would be interesting if you couldn't legally call yourself a PM without a PMP.
True. But if I drive my car, I'm a driver, with or without a license. If me getting a license is regulated (learners permit, probation period, restriction of alcohol for a certain time, road laws, a minimum number of driving lessons etc.) I may not run over so many people. There are many projects that effect many lives, if not putting them on the line. I'm not advocating regulation, but just opening the discussion for ideas on the concept :-)
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1 reply by George Monnat
Apr 14, 2018 6:00 PM
George Monnat
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If you drive your car without a license, you are not a legal driver. Same thing if you practice without a license you are not legally an engineer. In both cases, operating without a license gets you in trouble with the government; you will be facing fines, loss of employment, and possibly jail time. It's the same with MDs and the others you mentioned: have a valid license or be punished by the government.
With PM, it's a certificate not a license. That means you can do PM jobs without any fear that the government will punish you. If a government turns it into a license, there will be certain consequences:
1) You must have the proper license from the government-chosen entity. That means if they choose someone other than PMI, you better get that certificate/license and your PMI PMP/etc. will be meaningless.
2) The license will be more expensive to acquire and maintain, because the government-chosen entity has a monopoly and most governments view licensing as a revenue stream.
3) If you don't have the government-chosen entity's license you can be punished by the government.
It's possible they could choose multiple certifications to act like licenses, but I would be shocked if a government mandated the licensing without demanding control and income.
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George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Apr 14, 2018 2:25 AM
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True. But if I drive my car, I'm a driver, with or without a license. If me getting a license is regulated (learners permit, probation period, restriction of alcohol for a certain time, road laws, a minimum number of driving lessons etc.) I may not run over so many people. There are many projects that effect many lives, if not putting them on the line. I'm not advocating regulation, but just opening the discussion for ideas on the concept :-)
If you drive your car without a license, you are not a legal driver. Same thing if you practice without a license you are not legally an engineer. In both cases, operating without a license gets you in trouble with the government; you will be facing fines, loss of employment, and possibly jail time. It's the same with MDs and the others you mentioned: have a valid license or be punished by the government.
With PM, it's a certificate not a license. That means you can do PM jobs without any fear that the government will punish you. If a government turns it into a license, there will be certain consequences:
1) You must have the proper license from the government-chosen entity. That means if they choose someone other than PMI, you better get that certificate/license and your PMI PMP/etc. will be meaningless.
2) The license will be more expensive to acquire and maintain, because the government-chosen entity has a monopoly and most governments view licensing as a revenue stream.
3) If you don't have the government-chosen entity's license you can be punished by the government.
It's possible they could choose multiple certifications to act like licenses, but I would be shocked if a government mandated the licensing without demanding control and income.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 15, 2018 1:06 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Yes there will be consequences if the government turns it into a license, that is kind of the point. And yes perhaps multiple accredited certifications could be approved under such a license.
If you drive your car without a license, you are not a legal driver. Same thing if you practice without a license you are not legally an engineer. In both cases, operating without a license gets you in trouble with the government; you will be facing fines, loss of employment, and possibly jail time. It's the same with MDs and the others you mentioned: have a valid license or be punished by the government.
With PM, it's a certificate not a license. That means you can do PM jobs without any fear that the government will punish you. If a government turns it into a license, there will be certain consequences:
1) You must have the proper license from the government-chosen entity. That means if they choose someone other than PMI, you better get that certificate/license and your PMI PMP/etc. will be meaningless.
2) The license will be more expensive to acquire and maintain, because the government-chosen entity has a monopoly and most governments view licensing as a revenue stream.
3) If you don't have the government-chosen entity's license you can be punished by the government.
It's possible they could choose multiple certifications to act like licenses, but I would be shocked if a government mandated the licensing without demanding control and income.
Yes there will be consequences if the government turns it into a license, that is kind of the point. And yes perhaps multiple accredited certifications could be approved under such a license.
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1 reply by George Monnat
Apr 15, 2018 1:42 AM
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Throughout these forums there are members stating that many good PMs are not certified, and there are certified PMs who are certified. There are many people who choose not to get PMI's PMP for whatever reasons, many because they don't need it. But they are still good PMs. I'm not sure there's a benefit to the community by forcing licensure. It will put some good people out of work, eliminate credentials for people who chose the 'wrong' certifications, and become more expensive for all of us.
Again, this is coming from someone who has PMP and P.E.
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George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Apr 15, 2018 1:06 AM
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Yes there will be consequences if the government turns it into a license, that is kind of the point. And yes perhaps multiple accredited certifications could be approved under such a license.
Throughout these forums there are members stating that many good PMs are not certified, and there are certified PMs who are certified. There are many people who choose not to get PMI's PMP for whatever reasons, many because they don't need it. But they are still good PMs. I'm not sure there's a benefit to the community by forcing licensure. It will put some good people out of work, eliminate credentials for people who chose the 'wrong' certifications, and become more expensive for all of us.
Again, this is coming from someone who has PMP and P.E. Saving Changes...
