Many companies lack the knowledge and expertise of planning any kind of waterfall (predictive) project. These companies will try to call for Agile while it is clear scope and clear waterfall method to be applied here.
They abuse of Agile concept just because they think that they can plan "as we go" in reaction to events. let's run and execute now, we do not have time to plan. We can do it Agile!... They all suffer from sever over budget and behind schedule later one but will never admit the reason. what are your thoughts about it? Saving Changes...
George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Kevin, the program for my previous project was much like that; they tried to be 'lean' and 'agile' We started with very few requirements, which is OK, but we didn't get a significant number of new/refined requirements until 12 months into the 13 month development period - when we more than tripled the number of formal requirements. If you included 'informal' requirements, it was an order of magnitude greater. That caused a scope explosion and three month delay. They didn't understand why, which made it very frustrating. Saving Changes...
That is a case of perhaps doing Agile rather than being Agile. Companies "being" Agile here in Australia are few, while many are "doing" it.
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Apr 14, 2018 2:06 AM
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Sante, so true. Fortunately for me I found a new employer where true Agile is correctly implemented and part of the corporate culture. It's so nice.
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George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Apr 14, 2018 2:00 AM
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That is a case of perhaps doing Agile rather than being Agile. Companies "being" Agile here in Australia are few, while many are "doing" it.
Sante, so true. Fortunately for me I found a new employer where true Agile is correctly implemented and part of the corporate culture. It's so nice.
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Apr 14, 2018 2:27 AM
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George, that''s great. I've walked into a few organizations here, some of the biggest in the country, where they say they are Agile. They clearly aren't, not properly anyway. I'm happy you found a great place that is true Agile.
Sante, so true. Fortunately for me I found a new employer where true Agile is correctly implemented and part of the corporate culture. It's so nice.
George, that''s great. I've walked into a few organizations here, some of the biggest in the country, where they say they are Agile. They clearly aren't, not properly anyway. I'm happy you found a great place that is true Agile. Saving Changes...
I have also seen many companies who opt Agile for development but remain focused on status reports, complete project plan and EVM techniques.
Agility has to be acquired by the organizations from top to bottom then it would be more successful, other wise end up in performing some hybrid development methodology which is neither waterfall nor Agile. Saving Changes...
Drew CraigSr. Agile & Product Coach| VanguardPhiladelphia, Pa, United States
An organization's transformation needs often don't seem to take into account the culture change required and the length of the journey, struggle when it doesn't happen quickly/easily, then old habits begin to creep back in. Saving Changes...
Sonali and Andrew, and this appears to be the most common thing in Agile organizations. I talked to a major telco here about one of their projects that according to them is Agile and Scrum, when I digged a little deeper, I found there was no daily scrum, more like every few day scrum, some were using and Jira and some were not, no war room or open space area for the team, no regular product backlog grooming session, currently no Scrum Master! Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
The question is simple to answer: there is not an abuse of Agile. There is an ignorance about Agile. Just to comment, you can use Agile with predictive life cycle models and waterfall life cycle process which are based on predictive life cycle models. Lot of examples outside there. Saving Changes...
Dinah YoungProject Manager / Software Asset Manager| Prince William CountySpringfield, Va, United States
I agree with Sergio. Sounds like a lack of understanding of Agile. One of my bosses kept saying we do Agile. I asked what method she thought we were using. She said Extreme programming. I responded that just because we were programming quickly that does not mean we using XP or we were Agile.
Alot of companies want to jump on the Agile train but really do not understand what that actually means.
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2 replies by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD and Sergio Luis Conte
Apr 14, 2018 7:36 AM
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haha, "programming quickly".
Apr 14, 2018 10:08 AM
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From 1995 up to date I bring the bread to my table helping organizations to implement Agile at the level where it was born: enterprise level. Each time a company hired me to do that I spend time at the very beginning helping the same people that hired me to understand that Agile is not what they thing it is. Agile is not "deliver products faster", Agile is not "cut costs", Agile is not "put changes when we want", Agile is not "use a method or life cycle", etc, etc. I prefer that they say to me "we will not continue working with you" instead to be fired short time after. Some of the companies that said me that return to me to hire me to fix the mess that the intentions for using Agile did.
I agree with Sergio. Sounds like a lack of understanding of Agile. One of my bosses kept saying we do Agile. I asked what method she thought we were using. She said Extreme programming. I responded that just because we were programming quickly that does not mean we using XP or we were Agile.
Alot of companies want to jump on the Agile train but really do not understand what that actually means.
