George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Hi all,
I plan on earning my PMI-ACP soon, now that I'm working for a company that actually/correctly practices agile methodologies. They use a custom version of SAFe 4.0, and I'm a Product Owner. I saw SAFe's POPM certification which made me wonder how industries view PMI-ACP vs SAFe vs CSM, etc.
Have you seen an increased awareness and appreciation for PMI-ACP, or is it still the young fish in a big pond? Saving Changes...
The ACP is PMI's quickest growing certification after the PMP and I've seen it referenced in more job postings (in Canada) recently.
SAFe credentials are worth pursuing if (as in your case) your company has adopted that scaling framework OR you want to market yourself as a SAFe consultant. In some surveys (e.g. Version One's State of Agile) SAFe is portrayed as the market leader, whereas other studies (e.g. Gartner) might position other frameworks like DAD higher...
What I like about the ACP is that it is framework agnostic so it is applicable to a broader set of contexts.
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George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Kiron,
Thank you for that insight. I do plan on getting PMI-ACP, just trying to decide if it's worth the money for the other certs. I didn't know about that perception of SAFe, as this is the first company I've worked for which uses it. Saving Changes...
The PMI-ACP is or will be a lot more widespread than SAFe. The latter is in some organizations, and usually pay for their leads to get qualified in it. But once you move to an organization that doesn't use it (the vast majority) it won't really matter. PMI-ACP will become the large shark in a small pond in a few years time.
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1 reply by Boon Siang Tay
Apr 17, 2018 11:13 PM
Boon Siang Tay
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I google searched and saw PMI-ACP numbers around 19,634 (as compared to 833,025 for PMP). How did you know that SAFe is "less" widespread?
Since you're currently working in SAFe, you will notice that PMI-ACP guide books barely mentioned about SAFe except to know that there are 4 out-the-box configurations. Saving Changes...
George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Sante, I'm really hopeful that you are 100% correct.
Boon Siang Tay, that's a good point. Saving Changes...
The PMI-ACP is or will be a lot more widespread than SAFe. The latter is in some organizations, and usually pay for their leads to get qualified in it. But once you move to an organization that doesn't use it (the vast majority) it won't really matter. PMI-ACP will become the large shark in a small pond in a few years time.
I google searched and saw PMI-ACP numbers around 19,634 (as compared to 833,025 for PMP). How did you know that SAFe is "less" widespread?
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 17, 2018 11:33 PM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Simply due to the fact that SAFe is in less organizations that Agile by a long way. PMI-ACP is for Agile practitioners and any organizations using or planning to use Agile. SAFe is for organizations ONLY using SAFe. The PMP is not related to the topic. There may be 19K PMI-ACP's as you say, but there is probably 10 to 100 times greater numbers of organizations adopting Agile. So it all goes well for the PMI-ACP certification.
I google searched and saw PMI-ACP numbers around 19,634 (as compared to 833,025 for PMP). How did you know that SAFe is "less" widespread?
Simply due to the fact that SAFe is in less organizations that Agile by a long way. PMI-ACP is for Agile practitioners and any organizations using or planning to use Agile. SAFe is for organizations ONLY using SAFe. The PMP is not related to the topic. There may be 19K PMI-ACP's as you say, but there is probably 10 to 100 times greater numbers of organizations adopting Agile. So it all goes well for the PMI-ACP certification. Saving Changes...
The PMI-ACP is a broad framework and it is flexible enough. I can see great future for it and it is my target for this year after PBA Saving Changes...
George MonnatTechnical Delivery Manager| Kapsch TrafficCom North AmericaAustin, Tx, United States
Boon good question, and Sante and Kevin interesting answers. PMI-ACP is definitely my goal for the year. I might pick up SAFe POPM if the company pays for it.
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1 reply by Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
Apr 18, 2018 9:33 AM
Sante Delle-Vergini, PhD
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Yep that's what most would do George, so good choice.
Boon good question, and Sante and Kevin interesting answers. PMI-ACP is definitely my goal for the year. I might pick up SAFe POPM if the company pays for it.
Yep that's what most would do George, so good choice. Saving Changes...
