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What is the difference between MVP, MMP & MMF ?

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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Through my ACP Journey, I learned that MVP (Minimal Viable Product), MMP (Minimal Marktable Product) & MMF (Minimal Marketable Feature) each serves a different purpose in agile projects.

What is your opinion and how does each provide business value ?
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Werner Beckmann Product Owner| SIGNAL IDUNA Gruppe Dortmund, Germany
The main goal of the MVP should be to test your assumptions about the core value of your product. Therefore it must really be usable and valuable to real users - otherwise all their feedback is based on assumptions as well. The MVP might make you completely change the direction of the product development - fail fast and fail cheap! Leave away as much as you can and save that effort for later.

Many companies, however, seem to make the MVP too big: they're often frightened to let users try out a not-so-perfect product in fear of ruining their company's image.

Example for a MVP: As a company you integrate a simple ordering / claim / contact form into your website, allowing users to fill in details online rather than sending letters. For further processing you simply forward the contents per e-mail to somebody in the company.

After launching your MVP you would then observe how many requests are coming in. Based on the numbers you can then decide if it pays to integrate the form with a backend system, e.g. trouble ticketing.
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Jul 19, 2019 3:44 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Interesting perspective Werner. Thanks for the great feedback.

I think there is a fine line between MMF and MVP and while MVP contains the main top high priority features that the product won't function properly without, I think where people go big is in the MMF. They try to inflate the Minimum Marketable Features and then they end up failing fast but not cheap.
Jul 19, 2019 3:44 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Interesting perspective Werner. Thanks for the great feedback.

I think there is a fine line between MMF and MVP and while MVP contains the main top high priority features that the product won't function properly without, I think where people go big is in the MMF. They try to inflate the Minimum Marketable Features and then they end up failing fast but not cheap.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
I've seen organizations struggle with any term that has "minimum". As soon as you say that, they think "bare-bones". In a sense, they are right but try to explain how giving them only what is of the utmost value is a good thing.
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Jul 19, 2019 3:52 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I agree, sometimes tis is challenging !
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
I did see MVP use to justified financing to get to the next phase possibly MMP.
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Jul 19, 2019 3:45 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Are you sure it is not the MMF that is used to get to financing ?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jul 12, 2018 7:25 AM
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Interesting discussion and great insights.
Thank to all of you
Glad you find it useful.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jul 19, 2019 7:54 AM
Replying to Werner Beckmann
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The main goal of the MVP should be to test your assumptions about the core value of your product. Therefore it must really be usable and valuable to real users - otherwise all their feedback is based on assumptions as well. The MVP might make you completely change the direction of the product development - fail fast and fail cheap! Leave away as much as you can and save that effort for later.

Many companies, however, seem to make the MVP too big: they're often frightened to let users try out a not-so-perfect product in fear of ruining their company's image.

Example for a MVP: As a company you integrate a simple ordering / claim / contact form into your website, allowing users to fill in details online rather than sending letters. For further processing you simply forward the contents per e-mail to somebody in the company.

After launching your MVP you would then observe how many requests are coming in. Based on the numbers you can then decide if it pays to integrate the form with a backend system, e.g. trouble ticketing.
Interesting perspective Werner. Thanks for the great feedback.

I think there is a fine line between MMF and MVP and while MVP contains the main top high priority features that the product won't function properly without, I think where people go big is in the MMF. They try to inflate the Minimum Marketable Features and then they end up failing fast but not cheap.
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jul 19, 2019 7:54 AM
Replying to Werner Beckmann
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The main goal of the MVP should be to test your assumptions about the core value of your product. Therefore it must really be usable and valuable to real users - otherwise all their feedback is based on assumptions as well. The MVP might make you completely change the direction of the product development - fail fast and fail cheap! Leave away as much as you can and save that effort for later.

Many companies, however, seem to make the MVP too big: they're often frightened to let users try out a not-so-perfect product in fear of ruining their company's image.

Example for a MVP: As a company you integrate a simple ordering / claim / contact form into your website, allowing users to fill in details online rather than sending letters. For further processing you simply forward the contents per e-mail to somebody in the company.

After launching your MVP you would then observe how many requests are coming in. Based on the numbers you can then decide if it pays to integrate the form with a backend system, e.g. trouble ticketing.
Interesting perspective Werner. Thanks for the great feedback.

I think there is a fine line between MMF and MVP and while MVP contains the main top high priority features that the product won't function properly without, I think where people go big is in the MMF. They try to inflate the Minimum Marketable Features and then they end up failing fast but not cheap.
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jul 19, 2019 3:35 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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I did see MVP use to justified financing to get to the next phase possibly MMP.
Are you sure it is not the MMF that is used to get to financing ?
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1 reply by Vincent Guerard
Jul 19, 2019 6:31 PM
Vincent Guerard
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Yes, very.

The idea is to convince that it could be working. It is often used to get seed capital.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Jul 19, 2019 10:22 AM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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I've seen organizations struggle with any term that has "minimum". As soon as you say that, they think "bare-bones". In a sense, they are right but try to explain how giving them only what is of the utmost value is a good thing.
I agree, sometimes tis is challenging !
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Vincent Guerard Coach - Trainer - Speaker - Advisor| Freelance Mont-Royal, Quebec, Canada
Jul 19, 2019 3:45 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Are you sure it is not the MMF that is used to get to financing ?
Yes, very.

The idea is to convince that it could be working. It is often used to get seed capital.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Jul 19, 2019 6:51 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Interesting, thanks for weighing in Vincent.
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LORI WILSON RETIRED - Technical Project Manager| RETIRED - LifePoint Health Clarkston, Wa, United States
Well, I just learned a lot from this thread!
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Jul 19, 2019 6:51 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Glad you hear that Lori.
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