Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
I am doing some research and I am curious to hear what roadblocks you have faced. If there are examples you can share, please include them in your comments. Saving Changes...
Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Would you say that creating/promoting and environment of open/clear communication is the challenge? Saving Changes...
Joshua RenderProduct Owner| CognizantHarrisville, Ny, United States
Aug 16, 2018 2:40 AM
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Could you please elaborate? could you share an example?
It seems a lot of times, through no fault of anyone in particular - just the way things are - people may forget important details. I am thinking specifically when it comes to requirements gathering, but it applies to almost everywhere. Small bits of information get left out, over time it can build up.
A lot of people overcompensate for this by having more collaboration sessions. That may get some of it out of the way and in the open, but at the cost of spending more times in meetings. The trick is to try and balance it out and accept the fact that sometimes you will get hit with a missing piece of information.
Examples:
I was gathering requirements for an automation application. I essentially job shadowed people as they worked, asked them questions. There was a point where during their job they create these spending accounts in the system. There were multiple types of spending accounts. Now, it never occurred to me to ask, "Can they have more than 1 of the same type of spending account?" and it never occurred to them to bring it up. They do the job every day, they roll with the flow at what they see in their source of truth documents.
It turns out that it can happen, and it was rare. So I never witnessed it.
The first version of the application only considered the possibility of 1 per type of spending account being created. I can certainly argue that I should have asked the question, but I look back on it and I think, "Why would I ask it?" Every run through of this never included more than 1 per type of spending account. Examples I saw never included more than 1 spending account per type. Never crossed my mind as a possibility.
So I could have had more meetings with them, taking more time to create the application as I looked for something missing that I had no idea what I was looking for. I can't really blame them for not bringing it up, this whole process was hundreds of values and options they have to do it while I watch and ask questions. For all I know, it never crossed their mind because they were thinking about the case they were working on, or they didn't think I was interested, or they figured someone else already covered it.
At some point, you have to declare you have enough information, move forward, and just deal with the missing pieces when they come up. The more complex the work, the more likely it is to happen.
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1 reply by Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
Aug 17, 2018 11:01 AM
Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
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Thank you so much, this is a very detailed example! Cheers!
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John DuncanRetired| RetiredLebanon, Tn, United States
Aug 16, 2018 4:16 AM
Replying to Bala Sripada
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Thanks for sharing your insights John Duncan. I liked it very much.
How do we recognize if someone wants only summary information , visuals or numbers.
is that that we should ask them on what they want to receive from us?
Once again thanks for your attention.
Bala,
If I have the opportunity, I will observe the person, to see how they react to information being presented to them by others. What forms of information engage them, what forms of information visibly frustrate them.
If I don't have that prior experience with them, I will ask about their preference.
And/or I will come prepared with multiple options, and figure it out as I go... :-) Saving Changes...
Stéphane ParentSelf Employed / Semi-retired| Leader MakerPrince Edward Island, Canada
Aug 16, 2018 3:55 PM
Replying to Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
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Would you say that the challenge is what and how to tell the story?
No. Delivering your story is the easy part. The hard part is finding the right story for your audience
Complex question, first all individuals are different and communication are better adjusted to the audience.
First, we need to distinguish information distribution (one way) and other communication exchange (two ways). And there is some in between.
Some individual responds better to image/ graph, text or face to face.
Already a nice set of inputs
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1 reply by Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
Aug 17, 2018 11:05 AM
Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
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Thank you Vincent! Would you say that the challenge is to find out what is best for your audience?
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RAJESH K LProject Manager, PMP| Bharat Electronics, Bengaluru, IndiaBengaluru, Karnataka, India
Agree with John & Kiron
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1 reply by Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
Aug 17, 2018 11:06 AM
Gonzalo Jimenez Yamasaki
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Thank you for your feedback Rajesh. Do you have an example you can share?
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Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 16, 2018 4:32 PM
Replying to Joshua Render
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It seems a lot of times, through no fault of anyone in particular - just the way things are - people may forget important details. I am thinking specifically when it comes to requirements gathering, but it applies to almost everywhere. Small bits of information get left out, over time it can build up.
A lot of people overcompensate for this by having more collaboration sessions. That may get some of it out of the way and in the open, but at the cost of spending more times in meetings. The trick is to try and balance it out and accept the fact that sometimes you will get hit with a missing piece of information.
Examples:
I was gathering requirements for an automation application. I essentially job shadowed people as they worked, asked them questions. There was a point where during their job they create these spending accounts in the system. There were multiple types of spending accounts. Now, it never occurred to me to ask, "Can they have more than 1 of the same type of spending account?" and it never occurred to them to bring it up. They do the job every day, they roll with the flow at what they see in their source of truth documents.
It turns out that it can happen, and it was rare. So I never witnessed it.
The first version of the application only considered the possibility of 1 per type of spending account being created. I can certainly argue that I should have asked the question, but I look back on it and I think, "Why would I ask it?" Every run through of this never included more than 1 per type of spending account. Examples I saw never included more than 1 spending account per type. Never crossed my mind as a possibility.
So I could have had more meetings with them, taking more time to create the application as I looked for something missing that I had no idea what I was looking for. I can't really blame them for not bringing it up, this whole process was hundreds of values and options they have to do it while I watch and ask questions. For all I know, it never crossed their mind because they were thinking about the case they were working on, or they didn't think I was interested, or they figured someone else already covered it.
At some point, you have to declare you have enough information, move forward, and just deal with the missing pieces when they come up. The more complex the work, the more likely it is to happen.
Thank you so much, this is a very detailed example! Cheers! Saving Changes...
Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 16, 2018 5:39 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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No. Delivering your story is the easy part. The hard part is finding the right story for your audience
Thank you for the clarification and feedback! Saving Changes...
Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 16, 2018 6:12 PM
Replying to Vincent Guerard
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Gonzalo,
Complex question, first all individuals are different and communication are better adjusted to the audience.
First, we need to distinguish information distribution (one way) and other communication exchange (two ways). And there is some in between.
Some individual responds better to image/ graph, text or face to face.
Already a nice set of inputs
Thank you Vincent! Would you say that the challenge is to find out what is best for your audience? Saving Changes...
Gonzalo Jimenez YamasakiCo-founder - Body Language Trainer/Coach| Ready To Jump .ProCoquitlam, British Columbia, Canada
Aug 16, 2018 10:55 PM
Replying to RAJESH K L
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Agree with John & Kiron
Thank you for your feedback Rajesh. Do you have an example you can share? Saving Changes...