Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
To be honest, I see this as a very odd question Pench because Agile is all about change and I see you are very well versed in Agile and have several certifications but maybe your question here is for the purposes of others to learn ?!?!?!?!
Anyways, Peter put it in simple words: Backlog Refinement !
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1 reply by Pench Batta
Oct 19, 2018 11:43 AM
Pench Batta
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Thank you, Rami! There was a lot of discussion going on in my organization on handling the change requests. Sometimes, teams are not sure how they want to identify the change whether it is part of the scope or out of the scope. That's what I wanted to post this question, to see whether I am going in right direction or is there any other way it will be handled. I always feel, refactoring myself will improve my brain.
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Pench BattaEnterprise Lean Agile DevOps Coach /SAFe Program Consultant (SPC6)| Capgemini, Inc.Bentonville, Ar, United States
Oct 19, 2018 9:36 AM
Replying to Peter Ambrosy
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via backlog refinement
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Pench BattaEnterprise Lean Agile DevOps Coach /SAFe Program Consultant (SPC6)| Capgemini, Inc.Bentonville, Ar, United States
Oct 19, 2018 11:26 AM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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To be honest, I see this as a very odd question Pench because Agile is all about change and I see you are very well versed in Agile and have several certifications but maybe your question here is for the purposes of others to learn ?!?!?!?!
Anyways, Peter put it in simple words: Backlog Refinement !
Thank you, Rami! There was a lot of discussion going on in my organization on handling the change requests. Sometimes, teams are not sure how they want to identify the change whether it is part of the scope or out of the scope. That's what I wanted to post this question, to see whether I am going in right direction or is there any other way it will be handled. I always feel, refactoring myself will improve my brain.
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten AssociatesNew Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Oct 19, 2018 11:43 AM
Replying to Pench Batta
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Thank you, Rami! There was a lot of discussion going on in my organization on handling the change requests. Sometimes, teams are not sure how they want to identify the change whether it is part of the scope or out of the scope. That's what I wanted to post this question, to see whether I am going in right direction or is there any other way it will be handled. I always feel, refactoring myself will improve my brain.
Makes sense, thanks for the rationale Pench. Saving Changes...
Change requests are usually driven by the PM and Finance policies & standards of the organization rather than the delivery approach used.
Where there is funding at the value stream or product level, change requests might only be needed if additional funding over and above what was approved for a given fiscal year is needed.
When funding is allocated at the project level, that's where change requests are more frequently needed. While detailed requirements might evolve over the life of a project, if the fundamental capabilities and benefits can't be achieved within the approved timelines or budget, a change request would be needed to do more.
As an example, with my current client (a large bank), a PCR is issued if:
- Funding for more sprints is needed
- Key features are not going to be delivered within the approved time & cost constraints
- Significant benefits erosion is forecast relative to the last approved funding request
Kiron
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2 replies by Ken Yeung and Pench Batta
Oct 19, 2018 3:04 PM
Ken Yeung
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Totally agreed Kiron, and this is exactly what we're doing here per my past experience.
Hi Pench:
In a perfect world in Agile, no PCR is needed, as all resources are 100% allocated and deliver what they can based on their productivity up a a number sprints that your approved budget can account for.
Change requests are usually driven by the PM and Finance policies & standards of the organization rather than the delivery approach used.
Where there is funding at the value stream or product level, change requests might only be needed if additional funding over and above what was approved for a given fiscal year is needed.
When funding is allocated at the project level, that's where change requests are more frequently needed. While detailed requirements might evolve over the life of a project, if the fundamental capabilities and benefits can't be achieved within the approved timelines or budget, a change request would be needed to do more.
As an example, with my current client (a large bank), a PCR is issued if:
- Funding for more sprints is needed
- Key features are not going to be delivered within the approved time & cost constraints
- Significant benefits erosion is forecast relative to the last approved funding request
Kiron
Totally agreed Kiron, and this is exactly what we're doing here per my past experience.
Hi Pench:
In a perfect world in Agile, no PCR is needed, as all resources are 100% allocated and deliver what they can based on their productivity up a a number sprints that your approved budget can account for.
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1 reply by Pench Batta
Oct 19, 2018 3:53 PM
Pench Batta
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Thank you,Ken!
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Pench BattaEnterprise Lean Agile DevOps Coach /SAFe Program Consultant (SPC6)| Capgemini, Inc.Bentonville, Ar, United States
Oct 19, 2018 2:44 PM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Pench -
Change requests are usually driven by the PM and Finance policies & standards of the organization rather than the delivery approach used.
Where there is funding at the value stream or product level, change requests might only be needed if additional funding over and above what was approved for a given fiscal year is needed.
When funding is allocated at the project level, that's where change requests are more frequently needed. While detailed requirements might evolve over the life of a project, if the fundamental capabilities and benefits can't be achieved within the approved timelines or budget, a change request would be needed to do more.
As an example, with my current client (a large bank), a PCR is issued if:
- Funding for more sprints is needed
- Key features are not going to be delivered within the approved time & cost constraints
- Significant benefits erosion is forecast relative to the last approved funding request
Kiron
Thank you, Kiron! Saving Changes...
Pench BattaEnterprise Lean Agile DevOps Coach /SAFe Program Consultant (SPC6)| Capgemini, Inc.Bentonville, Ar, United States
Oct 19, 2018 3:04 PM
Replying to Ken Yeung
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Totally agreed Kiron, and this is exactly what we're doing here per my past experience.
Hi Pench:
In a perfect world in Agile, no PCR is needed, as all resources are 100% allocated and deliver what they can based on their productivity up a a number sprints that your approved budget can account for.
Thank you,Ken! Saving Changes...
Sergio Luis ConteHelping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based OrganizationsBuenos Aires, Argentina
In the same way you manage a change request using any type of approach: by running the defined change management process. Some people think that using Agile approach the initiative will accept changes at any time in the life cycle and no change management process will run to evaluate it. That is not right, including each method based on Agile practice has a change management process defined on it, sometimes implicit, The reason because in the new PMBOK (just in case you follow the PMI way to manage project) the work "project" was added to most of the items is because things like change management must be derived for corporate policies.