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PRINCE2 PID , Requirements : Specialist deliverable OR Project Deliverables?.
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A fairly esoteric question - is a PID a specialist deliverable or a project (management) deliverable. Ditto Requirements . Ditto test plan?
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Hi, I don't know a heck of a lot about PRINCE2, but have worked a bit w certain practitioners and development of the assets. I may be wrong in my opinion, but the PID appears to be a project management deliverable based on the input from multiple subject matter experts. From what I was made to understand, the project manager is tasked with assembling/gathering from others AND personally creating the documents which make up the PID.

Stakeholders would have to sign off on the final PID to authorize the project.

To compare to PMI initiation phase, the outputs are similar: business case, team structure, project feasibility, charter, etc -- all of these have some kind of PID counterpart.

The challenge in the PID I think is reference to some documents that seem premature this early on like the project plan and many of the project controls. I don't understand (and haven't understood) how these assets might be gathered so early.
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Andrew,

In my experience (under a tailored Prince2 environment), the PID has been a project management deliverable. It is used for All projects regardless of size. The PID went to the PMO and the business for review and approval; once approved the PMO would then make a determination (based on a matrix of factors) whether the project could move forward under the PID, or would require the creation of a Project Charter.

So, as Mary stated, it is early in the process which makes certain information contained in the PID suspect at times. However, on a large project which would require a Project Charter, this fact is understood. When the need for a Project Charter is made, the PID becomes a mute document and its content is transferred to the Charter with all the additional due-diligence you would expect.

Requirements (functional and technical) are done by a specialist along with the test plans. Of course, in small shops and in cases where the project managers is also a domain expert, the lines do get crossed at times.
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May 23, 2019 9:17 AM
Mary Kuderna
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Thank you for explaining this better and clarifying when/how a Charter might subsequently be added and how some of the PID content would be transferred to the Charter. It certainly cleared up some more things for me.
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Thanks for your insight on this . I am assuming you both would say Test Plan and Test Report are specialist deliverables?
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In my opinion, they are deliverables.
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PID is management tool. Getting sign-off on the PID is PM's management deliverable. Test Plan is management deliverable as part of project plan. Could be specialist product in IT. Requirements are not deliverables. Requirements are inputs. Well, you can have project only to develop requirements per se in which case they are specialists deliverable and end product.
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May 22, 2019 4:53 PM
Replying to George Freeman
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Andrew,

In my experience (under a tailored Prince2 environment), the PID has been a project management deliverable. It is used for All projects regardless of size. The PID went to the PMO and the business for review and approval; once approved the PMO would then make a determination (based on a matrix of factors) whether the project could move forward under the PID, or would require the creation of a Project Charter.

So, as Mary stated, it is early in the process which makes certain information contained in the PID suspect at times. However, on a large project which would require a Project Charter, this fact is understood. When the need for a Project Charter is made, the PID becomes a mute document and its content is transferred to the Charter with all the additional due-diligence you would expect.

Requirements (functional and technical) are done by a specialist along with the test plans. Of course, in small shops and in cases where the project managers is also a domain expert, the lines do get crossed at times.
Thank you for explaining this better and clarifying when/how a Charter might subsequently be added and how some of the PID content would be transferred to the Charter. It certainly cleared up some more things for me.
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The PID (Project Initiation Documentation) is a logical set of documents, that brings together the key information needed to start the project on a sound basis and that conveys the information to all concerned with the project (Project Definition, Project Approach, Business Case, QM approach, CM approach, RM approach...it is similiar to the PMP)

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