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I'm a recent graduate and I've worked on many projects throughout my undergrad career, do those years of experience count towards the prerequisites for obtaining my PMP?
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I have worked on projects for roughly 3 years as an undergraduate student playing a different role in each.
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Harold,
It depend on the specifics of your roles. If you led teams under minimal supervision to plan and execute projects including scope, cost, and budget, then probably yes. Some schools have senior projects which might fit this, but it is frequently beyond undergraduate programs.

If you were participating but not leading, then probably not although you might be able to count it if you were given responsibility for a part of the overall plan (a project within a larger project), even if not the overall PM yourself.
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1 reply by Harold Barreto
May 30, 2019 2:05 PM
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Thanks Keith,
So it would count if I was given a schedule by my superior, but cost, resource acquirement and allocation was left to my discretion?
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May 30, 2019 1:47 PM
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Harold,
It depend on the specifics of your roles. If you led teams under minimal supervision to plan and execute projects including scope, cost, and budget, then probably yes. Some schools have senior projects which might fit this, but it is frequently beyond undergraduate programs.

If you were participating but not leading, then probably not although you might be able to count it if you were given responsibility for a part of the overall plan (a project within a larger project), even if not the overall PM yourself.
Thanks Keith,
So it would count if I was given a schedule by my superior, but cost, resource acquirement and allocation was left to my discretion?
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It certainly could. Many times a PM is given constraints. A schedule itself is not a plan and often we're given high level milestones or some other schedule we have to fit within and need to add our own details. As the plan unfolds, the schedule is often impacted and the PM has to figure out how to mitigate or adjust for the changes.

In applying those projects to your experience, I would be sure to emphasize planning the PM solution based on your own analysis of the situation, and managing execution. You want to differentiate your experience from college classes where you develop theoretical plans you'll never execute, and project participation where you execute plans you had no hand in making.
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1 reply by Harold Barreto
May 30, 2019 3:40 PM
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Thank you very much Keit! I'll be sure to take your advice.
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May 30, 2019 3:36 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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It certainly could. Many times a PM is given constraints. A schedule itself is not a plan and often we're given high level milestones or some other schedule we have to fit within and need to add our own details. As the plan unfolds, the schedule is often impacted and the PM has to figure out how to mitigate or adjust for the changes.

In applying those projects to your experience, I would be sure to emphasize planning the PM solution based on your own analysis of the situation, and managing execution. You want to differentiate your experience from college classes where you develop theoretical plans you'll never execute, and project participation where you execute plans you had no hand in making.
Thank you very much Keit! I'll be sure to take your advice.
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It depends. however, you can apply for that.
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1 reply by Harold Barreto
May 31, 2019 10:42 AM
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Thank you, I will.
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May 31, 2019 8:24 AM
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It depends. however, you can apply for that.
Thank you, I will.
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PMI specifies that it must be PROFESSIONAL project management experience. School projects & personal projects don't count toward the PMI requirement. Professional project management experience during school, but for work, not school, does count.

"Use the experience verification section of the online application to record your experience leading and directing the project. The experience does not necessarily have to be paid work, but it does need to be in a professional setting. Activities such as school projects or planning personal events would not qualify."
- Project Management (PMP)® Handbook, PMI, 2017, p. 8

The PMP Handbook provides the details of the PMP requirements. You can access it here: https://www.pmi.org/-/media/pmi/documents/...al-handbook.pdf
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Sound and evidence based advice from Eric Isom. I agree with Eric.

@Harold, you may want to take the skills you have acquired from managing school projects and apply it to a non-for-profit or church type organization are a few ideas that come to mind.

Keep in mind - you need at least 3 months (4,500 hours) non-overlapping assuming you have a bachelor's degree. And 35 contact hours (formal education).

Best of Luck to you. Stay focus and you will get there.
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I agree with Eric, but putting my requirements management hat on, I immediately ask: What do "professional setting" and "school projects" mean? (This may sound pedantic but it is not.)

We have students who intern with us who are clearly working in a professional setting, we team with universities on technology development, and within universities themselves, there are many professional settings since it is a professional institution with many full and part time employees.

If a "school project" is a fictitious project serving the learning needs of a course but will never actually be executed, or building a homecoming parade float, then it clearly does not apply. If it is building a 40,000 seat athletic stadium or an autonomous car that will compete against major auto manufacturers, then I would argue it does.

Harold didn't give any details on his projects, but different people have different paths through university. I myself worked my way through school and had professional experience in several fields I am glad I will never work in again. Some jobs however, such as working at a civil engineering firm, gave me professional experience prior to achieving my BS degree. Harold did say that cost and resources were his responsibility, which makes me think there is professional experience here over and above basic scholastic projects.

Without details, I'm sticking with my answer of "It Depends", because individual circumstances differ. It won't hurt to apply though since Application Process occurs before Applicant Payment Process. If He can make a strong case for why it was actually professional PM experience, then I can't see why he shouldn't try.

The worst they can say is "No".
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My recommendation is sending an email to PMI´s Customer Care.

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