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Zaid .B Amman, Jordan
After graduated from my university major " planning and project management " i now work as a PMO Head officer in a software organization, My obsession in project management made me thirsty to learn everything about it and i like that alot, The only obstacle i am facing right now is the lack of understanding the business environment of an IT technical background knowledge by its functional means and systematics, My query is should i gain actual knowledge in the IT Field related to software development so i can understand this particular industry that i'm working on by assuming that i would be an IT project manager in the future.If yes, what kind of certifications i can get ? and is it a requirement for the project manager (or any related positions to project management; such as project coordinator, PMO, etc) gain that knowledge ?
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 19, 2019 8:48 PM
Replying to Keith Novak
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Rami,
I think we are on the same page as well, so it makes complete sense to me. :-)

I caution people about this because I have seen people take a new job, and panic leads to their resignation when they find that they lack in one of many knowledge areas. Some people also pay for a lot of courses in the technical details and find they never use them. Plus if you become and expert, and the job changes, you either need to gain relevant skills again, or seek a new job.

I sometimes have to coach newer PMs on this subject. Some of them think they should just collect and present raw data but not interpret it. Others do their homework, and ask lots of questions (sometimes to the point of being frustrating), so that they can distinguish between what is important, and what is just noise in the data.

Keith
Keith

I agree and I've seen that happeneing by either resigning or getting fired. Managing large construction projects is not an easy job at all, you should be like a lion in the middle of the jungle :D

RK
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Zaid .B Amman, Jordan
Nov 18, 2019 9:37 PM
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"How much of the technical decision making needs to be the responsibility of the PM? In many "

Obviously this depends on the technical background of the PM. If your PM has limited or no technical knowledge in the project's domain (very common in IT) then it is common sense that you can't give him any such responsibility. So zero responsibility in this case. :)

" In many places, the PM works closely with some technical principal. That is delegated authority based the capabilities of the individual given the authority. "

Obviously when you can't manage a team because you lack the domain knowledge you need someone that can do this.

However there is no delegation here. Delegation is when you have the ability to do something but you choose not to do it and ask someone else to do it on your behalf. You can't delegate something you can't do yourself.

A PM with no technical background can't make technical decisions and and as such he can't delegate something that he is unable to do himself.

The "Principal" does not need any delegation from the PM or from someones else to do his job. His knowledge and the simple fact that he was assigned to the project for his knowledge authorize him to make the decisions in his area of responsibility.

Delegation is about choice but in such a case the PM has no choice. The "Principal" would make the technical decision no matter what the PM thinks about this. At most the PM can try to replace the principal without someone else, of course if he was delegate such an authority from the sponsor. :) If not he can just take notes on what the principal is doing. :P
in this case we have to remove the word '' PM '' because he/she in this situation not a project manager at all :(
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1 reply by Adrian Carlogea
Nov 20, 2019 5:07 PM
Adrian Carlogea
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There are some organizations such as the PMI who try to define standards for project management and project managers but many if not most of the companies don't follow these standards.

So a PM is what each company wants a PM to be. You can say that by some standards some PMs are not real PMs but by the standards of their organizations they are.

Is not that easy like in other professions. I mean you know for sure when a doctor is a doctor or an architect and architect.
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Zaid .B Amman, Jordan
Nov 19, 2019 2:04 PM
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Zaid

Kiron and George's feedback are spot on and there is nothing much for me to add but I can give you a piece of advice regarding how you can learn to moderate, collaborate and challenge:

Those specific skills comes with experience and only with experience. You can certainly read a guide of the most effective and efficient ways to do so but you will benefit most if you do it yourself, learn, inspect and adapt because while the basics are the same, everyone is different.

You have a good solid educational background so you need to give yourself time to gain some practical experience in this field. Certifications at this point won't help you much but knowledge of your domain will so now it's your time to learn so in the near future you can combine this experience with your solid educational background and start leading the way yourself.

Good Luck.

RK
True :), Thank you sir.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 20, 2019 1:40 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Zaid - You're very welcome !
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Zaid .B Amman, Jordan
Nov 18, 2019 9:05 PM
Replying to Khai Ng.
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@Zaid

Gaining actual knowledge in the field where you manage your projects definitely help. For the field of software engineering, google "SWEBOK Certificate Program" to learn about it.
But don't you think that the SWEBOK a bit detailed which it is designed for high level experienced software engineers ?
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2 replies by Khai Ng. and Sergio Luis Conte
Nov 20, 2019 6:13 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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I was part of the group of authors of the SWEBOK. No matter that, no matter the intention we had when it was created, if you like to understand software engineering you have to go to CMU SEI web site.
Nov 20, 2019 8:32 AM
Khai Ng.
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Like PMBOK, you can use SWEBOK as a reference book in order to discover knowledge related to software engineering; the book covers all knowledge areas of SE.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Nov 20, 2019 4:45 AM
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But don't you think that the SWEBOK a bit detailed which it is designed for high level experienced software engineers ?
I was part of the group of authors of the SWEBOK. No matter that, no matter the intention we had when it was created, if you like to understand software engineering you have to go to CMU SEI web site.
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Khai Ng. IT PMO | IT Project Manager| TTGROUP Hanoi, Viet Nam
Nov 20, 2019 4:45 AM
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But don't you think that the SWEBOK a bit detailed which it is designed for high level experienced software engineers ?
Like PMBOK, you can use SWEBOK as a reference book in order to discover knowledge related to software engineering; the book covers all knowledge areas of SE.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Nov 20, 2019 3:58 AM
Replying to Zaid .B
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True :), Thank you sir.
Zaid - You're very welcome !
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Keith Novak Tukwila, Wa, United States
Nov 19, 2019 9:39 PM
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"I caution people about this because I have seen people take a new job, and panic leads to their resignation when they find that they lack in one of many knowledge areas."

I can imagine that, probably they panic because they realize that they have no control over what's happening in the project. If you haven't worked as a specialist on similar projects and you are put "in charge" you are always going to have a handicap. It will get better over time but you will never end up to being in charge.

Still you can bring value by focusing solely on the aspects on which you are really competent and hope that the team members would make the right decisions. A project is not all about doing the actual work am making technical decisions. There are a lot of other things that have to resolved and which are not directly related to the actual work.
Adrian,
I think you are partially right that they realized they lacked control, but more importantly that they did not know how to assess the situation and figure out how to take control.

I would also like to add that while we agree and disagree to different extents on this subject, I really do appreciate the constructive debate because it makes me consider this from different viewpoints. You have sparked a thought in my mind regarding PM, personality styles and, control which I will raise in a different thread because this one is getting a bit long.

Also don't take my posture as "I'm right and you're wrong." My own beliefs have evolved significantly over time, and a large part of that is by challenging the ideas of others along with my own, and integrating what I learn from that into my personal toolbox.

Keith
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Nov 19, 2019 10:55 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Adrian

You gave me an idea for an article: From Projects to Battles.

As I mentioned to Keith, we are on the same page, I do not disagree with you at all but on a side note: A police officer can't lead a military army because he knows how to use the gun, this is not the technical knowledge or experience required. The technical experience required in this case is battle tactics :D

No offense to all the great police officers over the world but lets be realistic. You need to have the mininum technical knowledge about the right thing, not anything.

RK
Maybe the comparison was not too good but what I meant to say is that when you have a cross-functional group responsible for performing an activity the leader must be someone with a lot of experience in one of the relevant functions.

The above does not happen always in project management and that's why in my opinion a PM that is not a specialist in one of relevant lines of work of the project is not the real leader of the team.

Still many companies don't care about the technical background of the PMs but because such PMs can't truly lead people they are being paired with technical leads/project technical managers who are responsible for the technical decisions at the project level.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Nov 20, 2019 5:55 PM
Rami Kaibni
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I do not disagree with this at all Adrian. Cheers !
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Adrian Carlogea Australia
Nov 20, 2019 3:55 AM
Replying to Zaid .B
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in this case we have to remove the word '' PM '' because he/she in this situation not a project manager at all :(
There are some organizations such as the PMI who try to define standards for project management and project managers but many if not most of the companies don't follow these standards.

So a PM is what each company wants a PM to be. You can say that by some standards some PMs are not real PMs but by the standards of their organizations they are.

Is not that easy like in other professions. I mean you know for sure when a doctor is a doctor or an architect and architect.
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