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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
The majority of the discussions involves always the same valuable persons with any doubts valuable contributions, and the origin of the opinions are provenient almost all from the same culture ( American continent).
What approaches do you think that this social network could implement to increase cultural and gender debate diversity?
How to increase the participation of other cultures in the debate like Europe, África or Asia, certainly this will enrich the opinions debate.
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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
Dec 15, 2019 8:03 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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In my personal opinion the block is language. Supposse that people know english is a big mistake. I encourage people to write in they native language.
Perhaps it could be good if the PMI opens diferent folders in different languages to promote people participation.
You have a point there. There are many cultures that I know for a fact that struggle to speak English. Recently i was in a work travel to Japan and I verified that communicating with them is a constant challenge and i believe that we have a lot to learn with their techniques, work processes and management styles. I believe their contribution would be an asset to this social network, but language is certainly an obstacle.
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Thomas Walenta Global Project Economy Expert Hackenheim, Germany
Dec 15, 2019 9:03 AM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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It could be a possible solution. I do not use facebook, I use linkedin and the feature is there too. I do not think is a matter of courage. Is a matter that lot of people do not understand english as do not understad spanish, portuguese and other languages. Diversity must be pushed in this sense to instead of suppose that english language is "the king and the standard" then people has to follow it. When this site started I do not see one intention to maintain diversity in terms of language use.
Hi Sergio,

with courage I meant that some cultures do not support public speaking, even if the individuals could do so with their language skills. Also, courage is required to make a contribution if all there others seemingly self confident contributors are out there, you do not want to sound silly or in-mature.

As to cultures, many exhibit a high level of power distance (Hofstede), which inhibits challenging the opinion of 'superiors'. I worked 12 years with Japanese and also saw the same with Indians, Russians and people from Middle East (all those score high with Hofstede). Germans and US guys are not so shy.

Some cultures also exhibit a high level of pride/honor and hence have a barrier not to loose ones face.

In a nutshell: yes, language is a problem, it can be overcome by tools, culture is a deeper problem. The system needs to be designed for respecting cultural differences.
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Rami Kaibni
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Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Alexandre

You did indeed touch on a very important and sensitive subject. I’ve been a very active member, contributing on daily basis since 2015 and I can confirm to you that you’re concern is absolutely legit. I can summarize to you the scenarios that I’ve encountered here:

1- Many professionals who saw my profile here, connected with me on LinkedIn instead because they are not active here. I am talking about a significant number of professionals who are great influencers in the project management world.

2- Many professionals started actively contributing here, and truthfully they added lots of value before they phased out and started being active on other platforms.

There is no doubt that you’re curious to know why ? Having sense of ownership for this community, I took the liberty to reach out to many of those professionals and I can briefly disclose some of their rational but not everything as they spoke to me in complete confidence about certain topics:

1- Many claimed that the community site lacks the very basic elements of any online platform (e.g. Edit or Delete Comments on Blogs and Articles, No tagging, emojis, the list goes on).

2- Many complained that lots of features are completely out of date: Lots of Badges, NODs subjects has been the same since years, PM Challenge Questions, and the list goes on so they felt that PMI has no interest in investing in this community and accordingly directed their efforts elsewhere.

3- Many did strongly feel there is bias (Whether intentional or not) for certain people and no matter how much they contributed, they won’t shine and their contributions goes unnoticed. Can’t disclose further details.

4- Lots of individuals did not find value in the discussions and comments being posed.

5- Many said that community site lacks any sort of motivation and proper engagement.

6- The Influence did Influence some, but unfortunately negatively as they felt the way the algorythim works is not fair.

7- A few felt there are too many unnecessary restrictions.

There are probably 10 more solid reasons why but as I said, I am not in a position to disclose those at all.

Some of the above points were conveyed to the moderators of the community site and as far as we are aware, they will be taken into consideration at some point.

That being said, the issue is much bigger than just a language barrier (Which is of course a legit reason too). In summary, I concluded from everyone I approached that the issue is with the way the overall value this community site offers and the way it is being managed, run and updated.

If we want more engagement, more professionals to join and become active, we have to look outside the box and change the way we look at things so the things we look at can change.

Those are my 2 cents.

RK
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2 replies by Alexandre Costa and Luis Branco
Dec 15, 2019 5:28 PM
Alexandre Costa
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Thanks @Rami for your honest opinion. I already had some suspects about some points that you refered. Always seems strange to me that most of the articles of the main page were always from the same authours, valuable articles without any doubt from reputed members but introducing same kind of bias because causes the decreasing of thinking diversity.
What I never was neer to imagine is the quantity of negative points you refered in your contribution, but know that you listed and I reflect on them, I agree with a lot of them.
Dec 16, 2019 4:11 AM
Luis Branco
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Dear Rami
Thanks for sharing the results of your research on the topic.

I wish the community was a worldwide reference in Project Management

With everyone's support and participation, we will achieve that.
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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
Dec 15, 2019 4:59 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Alexandre

You did indeed touch on a very important and sensitive subject. I’ve been a very active member, contributing on daily basis since 2015 and I can confirm to you that you’re concern is absolutely legit. I can summarize to you the scenarios that I’ve encountered here:

1- Many professionals who saw my profile here, connected with me on LinkedIn instead because they are not active here. I am talking about a significant number of professionals who are great influencers in the project management world.

2- Many professionals started actively contributing here, and truthfully they added lots of value before they phased out and started being active on other platforms.

There is no doubt that you’re curious to know why ? Having sense of ownership for this community, I took the liberty to reach out to many of those professionals and I can briefly disclose some of their rational but not everything as they spoke to me in complete confidence about certain topics:

1- Many claimed that the community site lacks the very basic elements of any online platform (e.g. Edit or Delete Comments on Blogs and Articles, No tagging, emojis, the list goes on).

2- Many complained that lots of features are completely out of date: Lots of Badges, NODs subjects has been the same since years, PM Challenge Questions, and the list goes on so they felt that PMI has no interest in investing in this community and accordingly directed their efforts elsewhere.

3- Many did strongly feel there is bias (Whether intentional or not) for certain people and no matter how much they contributed, they won’t shine and their contributions goes unnoticed. Can’t disclose further details.

4- Lots of individuals did not find value in the discussions and comments being posed.

5- Many said that community site lacks any sort of motivation and proper engagement.

6- The Influence did Influence some, but unfortunately negatively as they felt the way the algorythim works is not fair.

7- A few felt there are too many unnecessary restrictions.

There are probably 10 more solid reasons why but as I said, I am not in a position to disclose those at all.

Some of the above points were conveyed to the moderators of the community site and as far as we are aware, they will be taken into consideration at some point.

That being said, the issue is much bigger than just a language barrier (Which is of course a legit reason too). In summary, I concluded from everyone I approached that the issue is with the way the overall value this community site offers and the way it is being managed, run and updated.

If we want more engagement, more professionals to join and become active, we have to look outside the box and change the way we look at things so the things we look at can change.

Those are my 2 cents.

RK
Thanks @Rami for your honest opinion. I already had some suspects about some points that you refered. Always seems strange to me that most of the articles of the main page were always from the same authours, valuable articles without any doubt from reputed members but introducing same kind of bias because causes the decreasing of thinking diversity.
What I never was neer to imagine is the quantity of negative points you refered in your contribution, but know that you listed and I reflect on them, I agree with a lot of them.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 15, 2019 5:33 PM
Rami Kaibni
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You’re welcome Alexandre. Trust me, I hear your concerns.

Just to be clear, and while I do strongly agree with some of the concerns, those are a summary of the opinions of many great project management professionals who would have added lots of value if they were active here so the purpose is not to note negative things but rather to be transparent in terms of what is going on so together, we can work on making things better.

This is not only the site moderator’s responsibility, it is ours too. It starts with us as long as we still believe in this community. It’s a two way collaboration.

Transparency and honesty is an ethical obligation that we all have to carry.

RK
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Rami Kaibni
Community Champion
Senior Projects Manager | Field & Marten Associates New Westminster, British Columbia, Canada
Dec 15, 2019 5:28 PM
Replying to Alexandre Costa
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Thanks @Rami for your honest opinion. I already had some suspects about some points that you refered. Always seems strange to me that most of the articles of the main page were always from the same authours, valuable articles without any doubt from reputed members but introducing same kind of bias because causes the decreasing of thinking diversity.
What I never was neer to imagine is the quantity of negative points you refered in your contribution, but know that you listed and I reflect on them, I agree with a lot of them.
You’re welcome Alexandre. Trust me, I hear your concerns.

Just to be clear, and while I do strongly agree with some of the concerns, those are a summary of the opinions of many great project management professionals who would have added lots of value if they were active here so the purpose is not to note negative things but rather to be transparent in terms of what is going on so together, we can work on making things better.

This is not only the site moderator’s responsibility, it is ours too. It starts with us as long as we still believe in this community. It’s a two way collaboration.

Transparency and honesty is an ethical obligation that we all have to carry.

RK
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George Freeman Thought Leader | Author | Architect| Florida, United States
Alexandre,

I’m fairly new to this platform and have been experimenting by creating content on different channels over the year. Although my content is anything but traditional, I have found PM.com open and willing to publish it, including getting exposure on the home page. I’m still learning what works and what doesn’t, but have found the overall process enjoyable. What I’m trying to say is that I found PM.com extraordinarily fair, helpful, and supportive of my efforts and believe that this will be true for anyone willing to invest their time in generating periodic content that meets their styling and grammatical standards.

I pay attention to the content generated on this platform, and there are a lot of one-time article contributors, or those who want to get the scribe badge by creating three articles. After that point, it falls off fairly fast as it takes twenty articles to get to the next level. That says to me that the majority of the article content is gamification driven, which doesn’t lend itself to content that will regularly make it to the front page.

As Rami portrayed, let’s work together to increase the value of the site through our contributions.
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Luis Branco CEO| Business Insight, Consultores de Gestão, Ldª Carcavelos, Lisboa, Portugal
Dec 15, 2019 4:59 PM
Replying to Rami Kaibni
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Alexandre

You did indeed touch on a very important and sensitive subject. I’ve been a very active member, contributing on daily basis since 2015 and I can confirm to you that you’re concern is absolutely legit. I can summarize to you the scenarios that I’ve encountered here:

1- Many professionals who saw my profile here, connected with me on LinkedIn instead because they are not active here. I am talking about a significant number of professionals who are great influencers in the project management world.

2- Many professionals started actively contributing here, and truthfully they added lots of value before they phased out and started being active on other platforms.

There is no doubt that you’re curious to know why ? Having sense of ownership for this community, I took the liberty to reach out to many of those professionals and I can briefly disclose some of their rational but not everything as they spoke to me in complete confidence about certain topics:

1- Many claimed that the community site lacks the very basic elements of any online platform (e.g. Edit or Delete Comments on Blogs and Articles, No tagging, emojis, the list goes on).

2- Many complained that lots of features are completely out of date: Lots of Badges, NODs subjects has been the same since years, PM Challenge Questions, and the list goes on so they felt that PMI has no interest in investing in this community and accordingly directed their efforts elsewhere.

3- Many did strongly feel there is bias (Whether intentional or not) for certain people and no matter how much they contributed, they won’t shine and their contributions goes unnoticed. Can’t disclose further details.

4- Lots of individuals did not find value in the discussions and comments being posed.

5- Many said that community site lacks any sort of motivation and proper engagement.

6- The Influence did Influence some, but unfortunately negatively as they felt the way the algorythim works is not fair.

7- A few felt there are too many unnecessary restrictions.

There are probably 10 more solid reasons why but as I said, I am not in a position to disclose those at all.

Some of the above points were conveyed to the moderators of the community site and as far as we are aware, they will be taken into consideration at some point.

That being said, the issue is much bigger than just a language barrier (Which is of course a legit reason too). In summary, I concluded from everyone I approached that the issue is with the way the overall value this community site offers and the way it is being managed, run and updated.

If we want more engagement, more professionals to join and become active, we have to look outside the box and change the way we look at things so the things we look at can change.

Those are my 2 cents.

RK
Dear Rami
Thanks for sharing the results of your research on the topic.

I wish the community was a worldwide reference in Project Management

With everyone's support and participation, we will achieve that.
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1 reply by Rami Kaibni
Dec 16, 2019 12:02 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Luis

Thank you, I hope so ..... First it should start by having a fair unbiased process and giving a chance for more people to have their voices highlighted as opposed to concentrating on a few only.

It takes two to tango, we can't do it on our own, its a two way stream.

RK
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Amany Nuseibeh Speaker, Global Leader | Optimal Consulting Sydney, Nsw, Australia
What an interesting question and a great discussion!
I'd like to add my 2 cents here.
If we take discussion posts as an example, to add value, one has to go through the thread of answers so as to ensure that the response/idea has not been covered. For example, by the time Australia wakes up, the range of answers could have covered a plethora of ideas and angles that might deem any additional response redundant.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Dec 16, 2019 12:38 PM
Stéphane Parent
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Hey Amani. I, too, will often skip discussion threads that are long. If I am interested in the topic, I might go through it and simply vote on the answers I find thoughtful or provocative.
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Asif Gul Consultant Project Manager| Energoprojekt Entel Muscat, Oman
Indeed Interesting thread. Just to add my observation, i feel that most of questions are being asked repeatedly and there is no point for many project professional to engage in these and invest their valuable time.

One suggestion is that questions should be moderated to avoid repetition. Another suggestion to attract professional from all over the world, to participate, is to add country flag of individual along with his/her display picture. This can also bring a change and colorful diversity.
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1 reply by Kiron Bondale
Dec 16, 2019 7:55 AM
Kiron Bondale
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Asif, I like that suggestion about making the location of members more prominently visible.

Another approach would be to have a few simple charts which show useful demographics such as:

1. Distribution of countries across top X contributors
2. Distribution of industries across top X contributors

By making such measures highly visible, it becomes easier to understand if there is actually an unconscious bias at play towards certain locations or industries and then responses can be designed.

Kiron
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Kiron Bondale Retired | Mentor| Retired Welland, Ontario, Canada
Dec 16, 2019 5:45 AM
Replying to Asif Gul
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Indeed Interesting thread. Just to add my observation, i feel that most of questions are being asked repeatedly and there is no point for many project professional to engage in these and invest their valuable time.

One suggestion is that questions should be moderated to avoid repetition. Another suggestion to attract professional from all over the world, to participate, is to add country flag of individual along with his/her display picture. This can also bring a change and colorful diversity.
Asif, I like that suggestion about making the location of members more prominently visible.

Another approach would be to have a few simple charts which show useful demographics such as:

1. Distribution of countries across top X contributors
2. Distribution of industries across top X contributors

By making such measures highly visible, it becomes easier to understand if there is actually an unconscious bias at play towards certain locations or industries and then responses can be designed.

Kiron
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