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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
The majority of the discussions involves always the same valuable persons with any doubts valuable contributions, and the origin of the opinions are provenient almost all from the same culture ( American continent).
What approaches do you think that this social network could implement to increase cultural and gender debate diversity?
How to increase the participation of other cultures in the debate like Europe, África or Asia, certainly this will enrich the opinions debate.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Dec 15, 2019 7:53 AM
Replying to Kiron Bondale
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Alexandre -

This is an interesting question but is it unique to this community or is it true of most online (and even in-person) communities that a minor few (I won't use the term "vital" as that implies level of importance) contribute the majority of the content?

I've seen this with PMI chapters and with the communities for other (non-PM) associations as well.

There are a number of gamification-based tactics used in this community to encourage increased participation, and some of those have been used & abused by a few non-contributing members.

Perhaps one such tactic would be to zero out all the contribution-based metrics (e.g. influence, articles, blogs) so new members don't feel that it will take "forever" to get noticed?

Luis is a good example of someone who joined this community very recently, but has made a big impact with his posts and feedback on discussion threads & articles so, in his case, it is clear that being a newcomer to the community from a non-American country was not a barrier to participation.

What would you suggest?

Kiron
"Perhaps one such tactic would be to zero out all the contribution-based metrics (e.g. influence, articles, blogs) so new members don't feel that it will take "forever" to get noticed?"

I've made that very suggestion when I was on a PMI project. I also suggested a minimum amount of PDUs for Giving Back to the Profession category. (Sadly, there is a maximum of PDUs only on that category.) Both of these changes could help increase content creation in the forum.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Dec 16, 2019 12:29 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Hey! Doesn't anybody know that you can read everything in your preferred language? Simply go to the bottom of the web page and click on Language under TRANSLATE.

I will use this opportunity to test out an hypothesis: I believe that if your comments are made in your chosen language, it gets translated into each reader's chosen language. What I want to see is what happens if I type in a different language than my chosen one.

Here goes...
Stephan, I knew it but when I tried to translate it was a disaster at least when I use it in the begining of this site. No matter that, the point is not translate. The point is people will not enter to make comments becuase they see it is not in their native language. I have the opportunity to work with people from Japan and Rusia and other countries as some people wrote here and they will not participate in english conversations. And if you ask they are right. So, why I am participating? Just because I am doing that from years ago when no translators were available and the only opportunity to interact and learn from people was in english.
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1 reply by Stéphane Parent
Dec 16, 2019 1:07 PM
Stéphane Parent
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"... people will not enter to make comments becuase they see it is not in their native language."

Are you suggesting, Sergio, that people are only interested in conversing with people who are fluent in their own language? That would be very limiting for them and for us.

I, for one, would be happy to read a so-so translation that allows me to participate with people I would not understand, normally.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
All this thread is a good example about the reason that was stated for @Alexandre in the origin.
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Wade Harshman Scrum Master| GDIT Indianapolis, In, United States
Dec 16, 2019 12:35 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Interesting results!

First of all, I can see the translation is not great. It's not bad but would likely be better than a lot of people's attempts if they did it themselves.

The second interesting point is that I mixed French and English in my original text. It knew to only translate the French portion of my comment.
Stéphane, online translation tools are great. Not perfect, sure, but I can usually get my main point across if my audience is patient with me, so I am grateful for the tools.

Before sending an important message, I have learned to translate the message back into English so I can verify the translation. This has saved me from some embarrassing moments.
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Stéphane Parent Self Employed / Semi-retired| Leader Maker Prince Edward Island, Canada
Dec 16, 2019 12:58 PM
Replying to Sergio Luis Conte
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Stephan, I knew it but when I tried to translate it was a disaster at least when I use it in the begining of this site. No matter that, the point is not translate. The point is people will not enter to make comments becuase they see it is not in their native language. I have the opportunity to work with people from Japan and Rusia and other countries as some people wrote here and they will not participate in english conversations. And if you ask they are right. So, why I am participating? Just because I am doing that from years ago when no translators were available and the only opportunity to interact and learn from people was in english.
"... people will not enter to make comments becuase they see it is not in their native language."

Are you suggesting, Sergio, that people are only interested in conversing with people who are fluent in their own language? That would be very limiting for them and for us.

I, for one, would be happy to read a so-so translation that allows me to participate with people I would not understand, normally.
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1 reply by Sergio Luis Conte
Dec 16, 2019 1:20 PM
Sergio Luis Conte
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What I tried to say is some people do not know english and some people do not have the minimun interest to learn it, like people that belongs to Japan, Rusia, China, Brasil and others. PMI is loosing opportunity to make the community bigger. But the point is: is the PMI interested on that? is the PMI thinking that it will contribute to its business?. You can have some clues of that when you see the languages that standards are translated.
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Dec 16, 2019 1:07 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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"... people will not enter to make comments becuase they see it is not in their native language."

Are you suggesting, Sergio, that people are only interested in conversing with people who are fluent in their own language? That would be very limiting for them and for us.

I, for one, would be happy to read a so-so translation that allows me to participate with people I would not understand, normally.
What I tried to say is some people do not know english and some people do not have the minimun interest to learn it, like people that belongs to Japan, Rusia, China, Brasil and others. PMI is loosing opportunity to make the community bigger. But the point is: is the PMI interested on that? is the PMI thinking that it will contribute to its business?. You can have some clues of that when you see the languages that standards are translated.
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Alexandre Costa Scrum Master| Integer Consulting - Pictet technologies Loures, Portugal
Dec 16, 2019 12:51 PM
Replying to Stéphane Parent
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Hey Alexandre. I think we each individually can decide to help members towards everything this forum has to offer. To that purpose, I will try two new tactics.
  1. I will make a point of redirecting direct messages to community areas. For example, when asked a question I suggested the person check out an on-demand webinar that covered the topic. The webinar answered the question is much more depth I could have.

  2. I will include more community assets in my blog posts.
All ideas with the aim to help the community are welcome @Stéphane.

Nevertheless my focus is diversity of culture and gender I would like to see more articles from Project Managers from Japan or China or other geographical regions for example, read their histories, understand what works and what doesn't work in their cultures, what are they experimenting to improve project management. This is the main way to enrich our way of thinking and forming new opinions about old or new topics.

My only concern is help grow the community, in members, in ideas and especially in collaboration, contributing with my modest influence and participation.There are no ulterior motives in this matter just the desire to improve the processes and give voice to more silent valuable members.

This is like literature, I like Kafka , but i don't like to read only Kafka, because there are so many interesting authors with great contributions in several areas like comedy, science fiction, fantasy etc..
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Eduard Hernandez
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Product Operations Program Manager Barcelona, Cataluña, Spain
I admit that I would feel something is wrong if I see a thread without comments from Kiron, Rami, Sergio or Luis. Stéphane use to comment more often before retiring, now he is back full steam ahead! ;-)

Joking aside, I highlly appreciate the value and insight of the listed contributors, among many others, and hope to keep on doing so for many more years to come.
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4 replies by Kiron Bondale, Luis Branco, Rami Kaibni, and Sergio Luis Conte
Dec 17, 2019 9:17 AM
Sergio Luis Conte
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JAJAJAJA. To be honest, I am only active in two sites: linkedin and here. I am using my extra time to learn from people comments to improve myself and in my personal opinion those are the only sites that deserve my personal effort to achieve my objectives. Your comments helps me a lot to do that, believe me. I am not saying that for being "pollitically correct".
Dec 17, 2019 12:16 PM
Rami Kaibni
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Thanks for the mention Eduard, much appreciated. Cheers !
Dec 17, 2019 1:37 PM
Luis Branco
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Dear Eduardo
It is very gratifying for me to read the reflections you make in this community.

I learned a lot from you and everyone who shares your thoughts on different topics.

Thank you for participating
Dec 17, 2019 5:29 PM
Kiron Bondale
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Thanks Eduard - like Sergio, this and LinkedIn are my two frequent "haunts" for giving back. Sort of like the bar Cheers... where everybody knows your name (and there always glad you came)!

Kiron
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Sergio Luis Conte Helping to create solutions for everyone| Worldwide based Organizations Buenos Aires, Argentina
Dec 17, 2019 9:07 AM
Replying to Eduard Hernandez
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I admit that I would feel something is wrong if I see a thread without comments from Kiron, Rami, Sergio or Luis. Stéphane use to comment more often before retiring, now he is back full steam ahead! ;-)

Joking aside, I highlly appreciate the value and insight of the listed contributors, among many others, and hope to keep on doing so for many more years to come.
JAJAJAJA. To be honest, I am only active in two sites: linkedin and here. I am using my extra time to learn from people comments to improve myself and in my personal opinion those are the only sites that deserve my personal effort to achieve my objectives. Your comments helps me a lot to do that, believe me. I am not saying that for being "pollitically correct".
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Karl Twort Senior Project Manager| Fresh Egg United Kingdom
It's a bit of a snowball - the more a user posts, the more they become known. The "Vote" button only seems to be used against a few people. For me, this is more akin to the Facebook "Like" and if I read a comment that I think is valuable, relevant or thought-provoking, I will give it a vote up.

I am reasonably new to the forums, but always felt included and welcome to post an opinion on subjects I feel I can contribute, either in agreement, in support or even in contrast to other views and questions.

Not everyone feels the need to be involved and for many, within a forum of such a wealth of experience and knowledge, it can be daunting to post a view - particularly if it is in contrast to the norm, or popular consensus.

My view is that if you read a thread and have any thoughts of interacting, just do it.
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